The 68th in our 118-part series.
Schadenfreude
Obviously the primary focus of fandom is wanting to see your own team win. You invest your time, your money and your emotional well-being in following the fortunes of your favorite organization, and in return you’d really like to see a championship. Or a playoff appearance. Or an indication, at least, that those things might be not too far off on the horizon. Or the first-overall draft pick. Or, well, something. But a lot of the time things just don’t play out that way for us as fans. It’s not unusual to find just small satisfaction from your team, and some terrible years you find yourself with nothing to cheer about at all, other than maybe the promise of your lousy GM getting fired in a fireworks-filled off-season. In such situations the wise hockey fan finds themselves falling back on the secondary focus of fandom: deriving boundless joy from the suffering of another team and their fanbase.
We personally have our own measure of success in playoff years that fail to see the Devils win the Cup: as long as we lasted longer than the Flyers and Rangers, it’s all good. If the Devils are going to go out in the first round, we want them to at least hang on one game longer than the two teams we most love to see lose. During the regular season, if it’s a slow night of random games on Center Ice, we’ll eagerly flip from whatever game we may have been watching if we hear during an out-of-town scoreboard update that the Rangers are getting shellacked, because it warms the cockles of our cold, dark hearts to watch them lose.
Of course, our mean-spirited glee at the misfortune of other teams is hardly limited to the Devils’ immediate rivals. Naturally, we revel in the failure of teams that beat ours in the playoffs (we have never enjoyed a more fitting flame-out in the Stanley Cup Final than the one that befell the Senators this Spring, and derived a special kind of enjoyment from that brutal, hilarious Cup-winning goal), and teams that beat ours in the playoffs many years ago (it brings a tear of happiness for how the Avalanche failed to nail down that 8-seed in April), but we also love the failure of highly-touted (read: “overhyped”) non-Devils players, and even coaches and GMs. It surprises us sometimes how petty we can be, and how much satisfaction we get from following the narratives of woe being spun by teams that aren’t the Devils, but after all these years of fandom, it’s just something we’ve learned to embrace. 29 teams go home losers every Spring, so statistically speaking, we’re much more likely to end the season on a happy note if we’re loving watching someone else fail.

This really is something to love. If I hadn’t discovered the joy of wishing failure on teams, players, and random associated people that have wronged the Stars somehow, I would probably not be the dedicated fan I am today.
It also helps me vent my frustration with my own team. If things aren’t going well, I get defensive when I read fans’ comments that say anything bad about the Stars. So I can’t really say anything bad, so I find some other team and laugh at what their fans are saying about their own.
How’s this for schadenfraude? The son of the Devils coach put the Rangers first round draft pick in the hospital with a concussion! Sutter ran Cherapanov and concussed him.
I already love Brent Sutter. He’s got Canada playing Devils hockey!
(Sorry, off-topic)
I think I’m going to name my fantasy hockey team the Tawakoni Spiders
That’s awesome Patty!
Thanks, Meg.
I’m still thinking. Not only am I not that creative, I’m also very indecisive. :D
I just saw a tumbleweed go by.
I really don’t like Sutter much…. Pierre obviously disagrees with me, but that’s okay :D!
Katebits! Andrew! Look over here!
http://interchangeableparts.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/reasons-we-love-hockey-part-66/#comment-33049
Katebits! Andrew! Look over here!
:^:::::::::::::::::::: Brilliant! Everything worked out as planned!
Ohmigod!!!!!
Thanks for linking to that Patty.
Oh, and good morning IPB. I’m ready to blather before catching up on the comments.
I have the day off today (yay!).
I started off the day with a lovely morning of hockey in bed. As a breakfast appy I had a piece of a chocolate mint bar (gee, wonder what site put that in my head).
I then had a nice healthy breakfast while continuing to watch the game.
I then got up and did my own exercise endeavor. And followed that up by making & eating lunch, finished off with lemon meringue pie.
Now I’m settling down comfortably with IPB with my cappucino (with a bit of vanilla thrown in) topped with caramel. Aaaahhhh.
Oh, and good morning IPB.
Uh, yes. Good, uh, morning.
Brilliant! Everything worked out as planned!
I can only assume it was really Mirtle and not just a poser. Right?
I guess so. It wasn’t me, if that’s what you’re insinuating. :)
When I re-read the Mirtle comment I realized that he quoted 2 things, him being an ass and him reading the comments. So when he said “Bingo” I wondered if he meant one or both ;)
I thought the same thing, Icing. I’m going to assume he meant the “reading it right now” part.
It wasn’t me, if that’s what you’re insinuating. :)
No, I wasn’t, I just pasted your comment as wondering if it really worked as planned.
I actually assumed it was really him, but I wanted to make that comment just in case we find out later we were punk’d, and I can say I knew it all along. ;P
Hahaha Icing me too.
as an OT: i really want some chocolate. :(
As a breakfast appy I had a piece of a chocolate mint bar
“Breakfast appy”?
(If it’s a typo, Icing, PLEASE forgive me for bringing it up. I’m just wondering if it’s slang I don’t know.)
Vinny, 2 years, $12.6M for Marleau.
What’s that do to the Sharks next year?
I kind of wanted Marleau to be traded to us.
If my fantasy team was from the West, he’d be part of my All Pattys All the Time team. :D
“Breakfast appy”?
(If it’s a typo, Icing, PLEASE forgive me for bringing it up. I’m just wondering if it’s slang I don’t know.)
I don’t know what it is. I just meant an appetizer before breakfast.
All Pattys All the Time team. :D
All Pattys, no buns???
For some reason (I think it was earlier today) I thought of veggie burgers, which made me think of “Pattys,” which made me think of the team name “The Veggie Pattys,” which made me chortle (yes, I know that’s sad). It just seemed like a funny team name. Picture the logo…
I’m unfamiliar with Marleau, but I saw the headline this morning on iGoogle and was intrigued. My first thought was “oh good, now the trade proposals will stop”.
As it is, I think the Sharks are amazingly young&talented and have relative cap space to cover RFA costs and that’s pretty much all I know. I do know that at $6.2 mil hit, it’s 2 mil up from what it’s hitting the sharks right now… but I don’t think it’ll be costly. Market value at any rate, in my eyes.
I’ve never actually had a veggie burger, are they any good?
btw, i meant i’m unfamiliar with the west conference. x.x yeah, marleau. friday afternoons means i get sleepy and dazed apparently.
just meant an appetizer before breakfast.
Duh, sorry. :D I should have been able guess appetizer. I couldn’t get “apres” out of my mind, but that’s for after. Like, apres-ski.
You’re lucky you have a day off today. I’m obviously in need of one, too. :P
All Pattys, no buns???
This is an Atkins team.
For some reason (I think it was earlier today) I thought of veggie burgers, which made me think of “Pattys,” which made me think of the team name “The Veggie Pattys,” which made me chortle
I like that name. I’ll add it to the list. I could use the team picture of one of the Pattys that looks particulary slack-jawed as my logo.
friday afternoons means i get sleepy and dazed apparently.
Hey, me too! Friday afternoons I hit the couch hard.
Duh, sorry. :D I should have been able guess appetizer.
Nah, I think pre-breakfast eating is not the norm so no wonder it was confusing.
For some reason, I was picturing a veggie patty with a celery stalk with a face looming over the patty. Go figure.
Dammit, the internet refuses to let me see the pdf of the Stars billboards.
Friday afternoons I hit the couch hard.
Wow Earl, I had no idea you were such a weekend warrior! :)
Sorry Icing, I think for me a “pre-breakfast snack” is more like a “midnight-snack” in my books..
Who knew snacking would kill IPB
After the brilliant round of slogans for teams the other day, I’ve been thinking that we should have taglines for all the IPB irregulars.
Go!
For some reason, I was picturing a veggie patty with a celery stalk with a face looming over the patty.
Hmm. I think you need to draw that. :D
Are you looking at the dallasnews.com site to see the pdf? Maybe it’ll let you save the target to your desktop and then you can open it that way…
All Pattys, no buns???
This is an Atkins team.
Patty, that’s just too awesome.
Um, is it just me, or has anyone else seen the b&w wallpapers at the Sabres website. Dang.
Icing, are there new ones? Because I’ve seen some before *scuttles over to the sabres website*
Oh, and I totally forgot to say this before I left but I hope the -ookies are having fun! (And Schnookie what did that Dr say?)
(Oh, and we won our game)
It finally worked Patty! I agree, the NFL/Nancy one is the best. Go Stars! (Unless you’re playing a team I like more ;)
Congrats on the game, Mags! Good work!
Did you get the billboards pdf to work, Icing?
I’m heading out of here. I think I’m the last one left here at my office. Y’all have a good weekend!
(I’ll be around, but you know what I mean.) :D
Go Stars! (Unless you’re playing a team I like more ;)
Which is likely.
Have a good weekend Patty!
Go Stars! (Unless you’re playing a team I like more ;)
Uh, yeah. Beat those Coyotes, I guess.
Uh, yeah. Beat those Coyotes, I guess.
Exactly. :D
I can’t believe the -ookies missed Mirtle Day!
I also can’t believe that comment is lingering there at the end of the thread!
I know, it’s sorta sad. But I don’t know what so say to Mirtle. He scares me (in an “omg incredibly intimidated” way… which really isn’t a bad sort of scary)
I also can’t believe that comment is lingering there at the end of the thread!
Apparently it’s not anymore…
I can’t believe the -ookies missed Mirtle Day!
August 31st – IPB’s annual celebration of “Mirtle Day”!
He scares me (in an “omg incredibly intimidated” way… which really isn’t a bad sort of scary)
Ditto. :D
hey IPB! I’ve miaaed you. Hope everyone’s having a good start to the long weekend. I like the new Canucks sweaters color wise but I REALLY don’t like the Vancouver lettering. Isn’t it kind of self explanatory already? I’m bummed I missed Mirtle day…sounds hilarious!
I know, it’s sorta sad. But I don’t know what so say to Mirtle. He scares me (in an “omg incredibly intimidated” way… which really isn’t a bad sort of scary)
…. this is so true.
“Mirtle Day”
I’m seriously wondering what he’s thinking if he ever reads this.
“Mirtle Day”
I’m seriously wondering what he’s thinking if he ever reads this.
Wait til he hears about or sees footage of the parade.
Boy that was hard waving and smiling like that for hours. I’m tuckered out!
I’m seriously wondering what he’s thinking if he ever reads this.
Or what he’ll say in Ottawa…
Mirtle day! Yeah, he is intimidating. Although I don’t blog about hockey, and he doesn’t blog inanely about off-off-Broadway plays and his cats flower-eating habits, so I’m thinking I shouldn’t actually be intimidated. But nevertheless…
Meg, you can be our spokesperson in Ottawa. :D
Wait til he hears about or sees footage of the parade.
Hee hee!
:^:::::: dont’ forget the fireworks.
Meg, you can be our spokesperson in Ottawa. :D
Me? Eek!
Just kidding, Meg!
Hey, by that time he’ll be one of the IPB Irregulars.
Although I don’t blog about hockey, and he doesn’t blog inanely about off-off-Broadway plays and his cats flower-eating habits, so I’m thinking I shouldn’t actually be intimidated.
Even if he did blog inanely, I don’t see what that has to do with your blog. :D
We interrupt this Mirtle broadcast with a strange story from the world of Icing’s brain…
I started thinking about ‘no touch icing’ and the next thing I knew I had MC Hammer’s “Can’t Touch This” stuck in my head. Do I win an award for the ‘oddest IPB irregular’?
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming…
Do I win an award for the ‘oddest IPB irregular’?
I don’t know, do you own a pair of those MC Hammer pants? Because if you do, it’s yours.
No Touch Icing would be a good name for a rock band. Or your fantasy team.
I don’t know, do you own a pair of those MC Hammer pants? Because if you do, it’s yours.
*If* I did own such a thing, I’d so wear them to Draft ’08. Can you imagine a person wearing those, running around holding a potted plant, screaming “Where’s Schnookie McCrotch, TELL ME WHEN I get to see Schnookie Freakin’ McCrotch!!!!!!!!!” at the top of her lungs?
No Touch Icing would be a good name for a rock band. Or your fantasy team.
I might need to use that. None of the names I have used for fantasy hockey will compete with the team names you IPB’ers have come up with. I must find the ultimate team name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And then world domination will be mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bwaaaa haaaaa haaaa!!!!!!!!
0.0 I give you “the most likely to be on crack at the moment IPB Irregular” award right now, Icing. :P
*If* I did own such a thing, I’d so wear them to Draft ‘08. Can you imagine a person wearing those, running around holding a potted plant, screaming “Where’s Schnookie McCrotch, TELL ME WHEN I get to see Schnookie Freakin’ McCrotch!!!!!!!!!” at the top of her lungs?
Oh. My. Lord. It would be the best draft EVER!
but “No Touch Icing” sounds like a great name :D
btw, what do you guys think about me joining a fantasy league started by my university? At the moment every player is a guy… and I’m kind of the “what?! a girl!?” kind of commenter. But all this fantasy-ness has got me really hyped… should I really go for it?
If you want the ultimate team name, Icing, you’ll have to go through me first! I’ve got my staff working night and day to come up with the perfect name. Sure, we, um, haven’t thought of anything yet, but… um.. WE WILL!!!
:D
Go for it Vinny!
But all this fantasy-ness has got me really hyped… should I really go for it?
You should!
Have you done any fantasy hockey before? I can’t vouch for the complicated, live draft, salary cap kind of games, but the Yahoo one is easy and fun.
Patty – NO! that’s the thing.. I’m a complete fantasy rookie and so it seems weirder and then if I end up at the bottom of the heap it kind of just more strongly emphasizes that “girls” shouldn’t be doing fantasy or something. (er.. not that I agree with it, but this is kind of insinuated.)
Patty, you have so many possibilities! There was Patty & The Buns; All Patty, No Buns (sponsored by Atkins); The Veggie Pattys…
Vinny, I played fantasy hockey against all guys last season..and, well, I ended up winning. Don’t be intimidated!
Well, Vinny, if you lose it’s fine because you’re a rookie, and if you win it’s fine because it’s cool when a rookie who’s a girl wins those things, and if you come through in the middle somewhere, well, most people do.
So. Nothing to lose!
Ahh if it’s that kind of auction live draftness with the salary cap idea I might forgo the league, but if not I think I’ll join. Thanks Icing :D
Yup. I just kind of needed the extra push, thanks Patty. Watch me kick butt! (and according to Earl, H2H seems easiest to pull ahead even if you suck at the beginning. so yay!)
I came in second in a public league the second year I played (in the regular season). I have no idea who the other team managers were – we never talked to each other. But I just did what I wanted and picked who I liked and felt guilty about benching people and all that.
It’s a crapshoot. Only easier to follow.
And, if you get stuck, just ask Earl what to do.
Let us know how you do.
Try not to embarrass them too badly Vinny :)
See what your ass-kicking has done Vinny! It killed the comments! Those guys don’t stand much of a chance.
Ugh. I suppose asskicking a bunch of college guys is more welcome than asskicking IPB Comments right? :D
soooooo ah… how’s the weather?
anyone else have long weekend plans?
I don’t have much planned except I’m picking up my dining chairs from the upholsterer tomorrow and I’m a little nervous. I fear they could have ruined them. I should keep an open mind, though.
Other than that, I’m just going to be lounging around.
How about you, Vinny?
I’m off to bed pretty soon. I’ll be in and out over the weekend. I might watch some of the Open, see if I can catch an Ookie in the audience. :D
This in response to Patty’s first comment (I know, I’m a bit late): I get defensive when I read fans’ comments that say anything bad about the Stars
Oh, Patty, your life as a Stars fan is so difficult… ;)
Oh, Patty, your life as a Stars fan is so difficult… ;)
I know! I complain when people don’t talk about them, then I complain when they do! :P
You’re right, thugh, kms2. I bet Kings fans are pretty hard on the Kings. I can only imagine. The Stars fans that leave comments on the few places that mention the Stars act like we’ve never won a game. They want everybody fired after every loss.
I complain when people don’t talk about them, then I complain when they do!
Wow! The Stars really are the Devils of the West! We’re exactly the same way!
I started thinking about ‘no touch icing’ and the next thing I knew I had MC Hammer’s “Can’t Touch This” stuck in my head. Do I win an award for the ‘oddest IPB irregular’?
Once during a particularly boring Devils game, our season ticket buddy (whose name may or may not ryhym with “Blorgan”) said of a player headed to the penalty box, “He’s too legit. Too legit to quit.” Only, “Blorgan” (if that really is his name) didn’t stop there. He accompanied this sentiment with the “2 Legit 2 Quit” hand signals. So, I guess it’s a universal thing, MC Hammer and hockey.
There is nothing wrong with being petty and wanting other teams to lose. I would really have liked to see Anaheim lose, since they seem to think it’s funny to repeatedly kick my team out of the playoffs. I also like to see the Shames lose, and the Canucks. The Flames suck, and the Canucks used to be a bunch of jerks. (they seem to have softened up over the years…)
I would really have liked to see Anaheim lose, since they seem to think it’s funny to repeatedly kick my team out of the playoffs.
Someday, revenge will be yours!
Someday, revenge will be yours!
And it will be sweet, sweet revenge! I mean, look at the Rangers and Devils — for years the Devils couldn’t get past the Rangers, and suffered stinging, lingering, bitter defeats to boot, instead of just run-of-the-mill, ho-hum playoff losses. Then the time came for payback, and the Devils slapped the Rangers around in one of the more humiliating sweeps in recent post-season memory. Good times!
I can’t wait for that day. I will be unbelievably, gleefully happy. Especially if Pronger is still with the team.