A List Of Players We Think Are Worth $124 Million

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A List Of Players We Think Are Worth $124 Million

January 11, 2008 by Pookie

Here is a list of players we think are worth 13-year, $124 million contracts:

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on January 11, 2008 at 9:47 pm John Fischer

I think you’re wrong, and I’ll have a response shortly.
on January 11, 2008 at 9:47 pm CKim

hahahahaha
on January 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm Schnookie

We eagerly await your response, John, but bear in mind — if you’re not arguing that Pando’s the guy who deserves that contract, we’ll just have to agree to disagree! :P
on January 11, 2008 at 9:56 pm Schnookie

CKim, thanks for laughing! It’s always nice to get good feedback on a lazy, Friday-night post. :D
on January 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm kms2

I can tell you put a lot of thought into that list. BTW, I went to the Penzey’s Spices store today! But I completely forgot my camera so I don’t have any pics to share. It was such a wonderful experience and I bought 7 different spices. I was also shocked at how inexpensive the spices were compared to what you pay at the grocery store for Spice Hunter, McCormicks or Spice Island.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:04 pm Pookie

kms2, we put a lot of thought into this! I mean, it took us a long time to go, “Um… Sid? No. That was quick. Done and done!” :)
on January 11, 2008 at 10:08 pm Schnookie

Oh! Penzey’s! How exciting!! What did you get? (Their prices are really good, aren’t they?)
on January 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm Caitlin

Four gold stars and a cookie, -Ookies!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I can’t believe you left off your list!! East Coast bias? Hm? ;P
on January 11, 2008 at 10:10 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Dang wordpress trying to save me from myself! There’s supposed to be a big blank there.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:10 pm Schnookie

Thanks, Caitlin! (Please not a pina colada cookie, though. We’d rather have five gold stars if it’s a pina colada cookie. And, come to think of it, do you have plastic stars instead?)
on January 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm Schnookie

Patty:

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Even if WordPress tried to sabotage you, that’s HILARIOUS.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:12 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Ixnay on the ookie-kay, Caitlin! Schnookie had a bad experience with a cookie today! :D
on January 11, 2008 at 10:12 pm Schnookie

(Oh, and WordPress wouldn’t let us just have a long, blank space in our post. That’s why we had to number the blank space, but originally we just wanted to have a huge white page of nothingness.)
on January 11, 2008 at 10:14 pm kms2

I got coriander seeds, celery seed, fennel seed, ground clovves, and hungary sweet paprika because I’ve never had any of them. Then I got Medium Hot Chili Powder because I ran out of that stuff a while ago and I got the Old World Seasoning cause it sounded good.

And I’m super pissed because I spent over an hour driving around looking for fucking Katamari for the XBox and couldn’t find it. Target didn’t even have it, Best Buy was out and when I finally had the fiancee call Game Stop and confirm they had it I made a wrong turn and once I realized I was heading home rather than to the store I just gave up because I was so tired of driving…
on January 11, 2008 at 10:14 pm Caitlin

Thanks, Caitlin! (Please not a pina colada cookie, though. We’d rather have five gold stars if it’s a pina colada cookie. And, come to think of it, do you have plastic stars instead?)

Oh, I missed this today but I have to second the coconut hatred. Mine stems from having a big bite of raw coconut when I was 12ish, and I can’t even bear the smell of it nowadays.

They wouldn’t be awesome gold stars if they weren’t plastic! Ha!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:15 pm Patty (in Dallas)

WordPress never seems to have a problem when I’m using it’s instead of its. Why not jump in and correct me there, WordPress.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm Caitlin

Schnookie had a bad experience with a cookie today! :D

I had some bad experiences with cough drops today…which made me totally think of you, Patty.

Schnookie, I did read that thing about the cookie and all I can say is, yuck. People really need to forewarn you of these things!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:20 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I’m sorry you’re so sick, Caitlin.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:21 pm Pookie

They wouldn’t be awesome gold stars if they weren’t plastic! Ha!

Hellz yeah!

Patty, your list of WC players worth $124 mil, 13-year contracts is hilarious!

kms2, I’m so sorry you couldn’t get Katamari today! But someday you’ll have it and it will be wonderful!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:24 pm Schnookie

I got coriander seeds, celery seed, fennel seed, ground clovves, and hungary sweet paprika because I’ve never had any of them. Then I got Medium Hot Chili Powder because I ran out of that stuff a while ago and I got the Old World Seasoning cause it sounded good.

NICE! I use their Hungary sweet paprika with no small regularity, and we just broke out the ground cloves this Christmas for spice cookies. I hope you love them! (I just love that Penzey’s sells EVERYTHING. What a great laundry list of things for you to have picked up!)

Oh, and I’m so sorry about Katamari — that BLOWS.

Caitlin, I also can’t stand the smell of coconut. I was vaguely suspicious when I opened the tin of cookies that I was getting some coconut whiffage, but I dismissed my concerns as irrational. They looked like buttery cookies! Who puts coconut in buttery cookies? Fuckers.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:25 pm Patty (in Dallas)

kms2, I saw the XBox Katamari on Amazon today. Might be easier just to order it from them.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:25 pm Caitlin

I’m sorry you’re so sick, Caitlin.

You know, it’s actually okay. Trying to find a doctor to see, now that’s been a problem (and one who doesn’t want to consistently give me penicillin, which I’m deathly allergic to).

Honestly, I’ll take the flu over pneumonia any day, considering every year I wait for the inevitable bout of pneumonia I wind up contracting.

It’s no big! I just nearly choked on a cough drop today and I thought of you and how Bouche manages not to choke on his cough drops. I’m such a spaz.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:27 pm Caitlin

Caitlin, I also can’t stand the smell of coconut. I was vaguely suspicious when I opened the tin of cookies that I was getting some coconut whiffage, but I dismissed my concerns as irrational. They looked like buttery cookies! Who puts coconut in buttery cookies? Fuckers.

It makes me want to gag. A roommate of mine once owned some of this coconut lime body spray, and I finally had to beg her to stop using it because it was making me nauseous to be around her. I’m horrible.

I’ve found people like to hide coconut in a variety of foods, so I’m wary, always wary, of food. My mother thinks I’m such a freak, because I’m always like, “DID YOU PUT COCONUT IN THIS?” (My mom is a coconut junkie.)
on January 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I just nearly choked on a cough drop today and I thought of you and how Bouche manages not to choke on his cough drops.

Yes, Bouche is a cough-drop-sucking expert.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:30 pm kms2

kms2, I saw the XBox Katamari on Amazon today. Might be easier just to order it from them.

I actually just looked it up and I might do that. However, the fiancee offered to drive to Game Stop tonight and get it for me but I’d feel like a snotty high maintenance bitch if he did. I’ll probably head out tomorrow and get it. I guess I’ll just have to play Guitar Hero tonight…

and one who doesn’t want to consistently give me penicillin, which I’m deathly allergic to
I’m allergic, too, although not deathly. In college I always got really sick in the winter time and every doctor I saw always had to take a couple extra minutes to figure out what medicine to give me because so many are related to penicillin! My favorite med was Zithromax which always did the trick.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:30 pm Patty (in Dallas)

As soon as I got home tonight I immediately had two Cold-Eeze lozenges. Every where I went all day today (including work) had sneezing children all around.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:34 pm kms2

Cold-Eeze lozenges

Have you ever had Ludens? They taste so good but do absolutely nothing for you!!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:38 pm Pookie

One of the key moments of my life when I realized I was an adult was the day I finally admitted that Ludens do nothing. It was really sad. And that’s my story.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:39 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I used to love Ludens Wild Cherry! I usually use those (or Hall’s) when I actually have a cold. I use the Cold-Eeze to help avoid them.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:40 pm Caitlin

Every where I went all day today (including work) had sneezing children all around.

My office has been sick off and on, so I’m pretty sure that’s how I got this crap.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:40 pm Schnookie

I’ve found people like to hide coconut in a variety of foods, so I’m wary, always wary, of food. My mother thinks I’m such a freak, because I’m always like, “DID YOU PUT COCONUT IN THIS?” (My mom is a coconut junkie.)

Coconut junkies are SO WEIRD. We have a friend who is quite enamored of coconut, and keeps teasing us, like, “You don’t like coconut? Not even in a coconut cream pie?” But yeah, for some reason, people really do seem to like to put it in all sorts of strange foodstuffs. So bizarre.

A coworker of mine gave me coconut-lime scented candles last year for Christmas. Whatever, cocoonut-lime scented candles. Whatever.

As for cough drops, I ADORE Ricola. And that’s my story.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:40 pm Amanda

Who puts coconut in buttery cookies? Fuckers.

Word.

I think the list is spot-on. Good job, -ookies.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:41 pm John Fischer

OK, I wrote it. It’s a bit longwinded, but it cites the NFL Network. Also, Ovechkin is trending UP in goals, hits, takeaways, and shots. Not down, up. And we’re talking about a guy whose career highs are 52, 187, 69, and 426, respectively. Numbers almost every forward not named Crosby, Thornton, Lecavalier, and Kovalchuk dreams of having.

And he’s only going to get BETTER. Watch out for this guy when the Capitals start becoming playoff players. Hell, they can make up lost ground in the division and make a push for it this season.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:41 pm John Fischer

Also, Jay Pandolfo is priceless.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:47 pm Katebits

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on January 11, 2008 at 10:47 pm Heather B.

Coconut sucks!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:49 pm Amanda

Holy crap, John, that IS a lot of words! AO-Rod. That’s great!

You made some good points, but — the contract is too long (kind of like Mike Richard’s and Rick DiPietro’s) and they’re paying him too much.

People can bitch about Sid’s contract as much as they want, but he left money on the table, no doubt about it. Sid is a smart guy with a lot of smart people around him and he knew he needed to keep enough money available under the cap to get him a couple of decent wingers. (Marian Hossa, are you listening?)

Sid is competitive to a fault. I think AO is competitive, but not like Sid (and a lot of other players). Look, no one who is a professional athlete likes to lose, but guys like Drury, Sid, Thornton, Iginla, they HATE to lose. That’s the difference.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:50 pm Heather B.

John, I think the key to your post is “Short of injuries…” For me that would be a pretty big piece to overlook when talking about a 13-year contract for a guy who doesn’t play very gently.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:53 pm Pookie

John, first of all, Pando is so totally priceless! Secondly, I see your points and agree to a certain extent. However, I can’t think of a power forward who’s ever been worth $10 million after the age of 30. That’s what concerns me. It might not be a catastrophic injury, but just the wear and tear on a guy who plays like he does has historically taken a big-time toll.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:54 pm Amanda

John, I think the key to your post is “Short of injuries…” For me that would be a pretty big piece to overlook when talking about a 13-year contract for a guy who doesn’t play very gently.

The same can be said for Sid, but Sid didn’t sign a 13-year contract. (Sorry, still trying to defend Sid vs. AO. I’m a Sabres fan, but I like the Kid a lot. He’s unreal.)

Heather – do you want some of my books now? If you live in Buffalo I can drop some off for you to read during your recovery period. Let me know!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:57 pm Schnookie

Also, Jay Pandolfo is priceless.

Thanks, John. That’s all I wanted to hear! :D

(I left a comment on your post, which I thought was wonderful, as usual!)

I think the key to your post is “Short of injuries…” For me that would be a pretty big piece to overlook when talking about a 13-year contract for a guy who doesn’t play very gently.

You know, we’ve been talking about this all evening here, and we realized that we’ve been hockey fans now for 13 years. So we looked back over the entirety of our fandom (yeah, that’s right — the ENTIRETY of it), and it is a very short list indeed of guys who we can think of who would have been worth $10 million for that entire time. It’s kind of Marty, Lidstrom, and… no one else. And part of the value of those guys is that they left significant money on the table for their teammates so their teams could keep winning. And to put Ovie’s contract in perspective, the year we started watching was the year Keith Tkachuk (the preeminent power forward at that time) got a front-loaded UFA contract worth $7 million that year. Imagine how fantastic that deal would have been if it had been for 13 years!
on January 11, 2008 at 10:58 pm Schnookie

Sorry, still trying to defend Sid vs. AO.

I don’t think anyone here will argue that Sid’s contract was a bad one. And if Ovie’s contract had been the originally-announced 6-year one, I don’t think anyone would see anything wrong with that, either.
on January 11, 2008 at 10:59 pm Heather B.

Heather – do you want some of my books now? If you live in Buffalo I can drop some off for you to read during your recovery period. Let me know!

Amanda, Mark just picked up a big stack of books from the library for me, some of which are 7 day-ers, so I’m going to work on those first. But I’ll definitely take you up on the offer when I’m done with this pile. Thanks!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:01 pm Amanda

Ok, sounds good, Heather B. Just let me know. Now that I’ve found kindred spirits on the Internet (YAY!!!) you’ll all be seeing a lot more of me.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:03 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Now that I’ve found kindred spirits on the Internet (YAY!!!) you’ll all be seeing a lot more of me.

Yay! Right back atcha! :D
on January 11, 2008 at 11:06 pm Iain

Just a quick post-and-run on my way to bed:

1. Katamari is not available on any console in Europe at all. We feel somewhat left out.

2. Cam Janssen is clearly worth $124 million over 10 years, you fools.

I’ll get me coat.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:09 pm Pookie

I’ll get me coat.

Yeah, you do that.

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on January 11, 2008 at 11:12 pm Schnookie

Cam Janssen is clearly worth $124 million over 10 years, you fools.

For that, I’m going to write the Katamari people and demand that they NEVER make it available to you! For shame, Iain. For shame. :P
on January 11, 2008 at 11:12 pm Caitlin

Coconut junkies are SO WEIRD. We have a friend who is quite enamored of coconut, and keeps teasing us, like, “You don’t like coconut? Not even in a coconut cream pie?” But yeah, for some reason, people really do seem to like to put it in all sorts of strange foodstuffs. So bizarre.

My mother lived in Hawaii for a few years, so anything Hawaiian she is madly in love with. At holidays, we always wind up having this stuff called haupia which is like a Hawaiian coconut custard. Grossness.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:15 pm Pookie

I would rather be forced to have season tickets to the Rangers than eat one bite of coconut.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:23 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Wow, Pookie. That’s really sad.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:24 pm Amanda

Caitlin – I totally know what you’re talking about with the haupia! When I was in Hawaii with my girlfriends we went to one of those luau things and they didn’t ID all the food on the buffet. I tasted it and went “bleahhhhhhhhhhhhh” really loudly, which, of course, embarrassed all my friends. Coconut is evil.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:28 pm Amanda

Oh man, I’m getting old. I think I have to go to sleep now. I’m sitting here and yawning and it finally occurred to me “Hey, dumbass, you’re tired!”

I won’t be around for tomorrow night’s game, but I hope that we can all still be friends. ;-) I’m taping the game and I will watch it when I get home as long as someone doesn’t ruin it for me while I’m out.

Night, all!!!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:29 pm Caitlin

Coconut is evil.

Oh, god, I know!!! So gross!

I would rather be forced to have season tickets to the Rangers than eat one bite of coconut.

I would rather be forced to have Red Wings tickets.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:31 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I would rather be forced to have season tickets to the Rangers than eat one bite of coconut.

I would rather be forced to have Red Wings tickets.

In these hypotheticals, do you actually have to go to the games? Surely coconut’s not that bad! It’s not like it’s squash or something!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:34 pm Schnookie

I love squash! And I think having to attend 41 Rangers home games a year would leave less of a bad taste in my mouth than coconut.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:35 pm Katebits

You people are insane. Coconut is wonderful!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:36 pm Katebits

So is squash!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:37 pm Pookie

Just thinking about coconut makes me ill. I don’t think I’ve been able to keep coconut in my mouth for longer than 3 seconds. I just immediately have to spit it out. And then I spend a week with the lingering taste and texture of coconut. And then I spend a month shivering in horror thinking about it. It’s awful. AWFUL! The Rangers would at least lose some of those games I’d have to attend.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:38 pm Pookie

Squash drools!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:44 pm Katebits

Squash RULES you crazy beyotch!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:46 pm Pookie

No, you’re a crazy beyotch!
on January 11, 2008 at 11:46 pm Katebits

True.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:46 pm Katebits

But let’s leave squash out of this.
on January 11, 2008 at 11:47 pm Pookie

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on January 11, 2008 at 11:51 pm zot

:^:::::::, Pookie and Katebits.

P.S. Bitter melon is the nastiest thing ever. I don’t even know how it qualifies as food.

P.P.S. Andrew tricked me earlier. That Ducks game he wanted to go to is actually in Minnesota. :(
on January 11, 2008 at 11:55 pm Patty (in Dallas)

True.
But let’s leave squash out of this.

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on January 11, 2008 at 11:56 pm Patty (in Dallas)

P.P.S. Andrew tricked me earlier. That Ducks game he wanted to go to is actually in Minnesota. :(

He tricked me too! Think he’s tricked himself?
on January 11, 2008 at 11:56 pm Patty (in Dallas)

And Pookie’s right. Squash drools.

But coconut rules!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:00 am Schnookie

But coconut rules!

Patty, that’s it. You’re banned.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:01 am Schnookie

Oh, and this “bitter melon” seems, on the surface, to have all the negative elements of melon (the melony texture) but with extra bitterness in place of the positive elements (the melony sweetness). I’m not sure where the appeal lies.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:03 am zot

Think he’s tricked himself?

Most likely. :|

I’m not sure where the appeal lies.

Appeal? What appeal? There is no appeal. Well, maybe the fact that it’s a real-life snozzcumber.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:13 am Patty (in Dallas)

Patty, that’s it. You’re banned.

I retract my statement.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:15 am Matt

Think he’s tricked himself?

I totally got tricked into buying Caps tickets today. I’m so ashamed.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:16 am John Fischer

OK.

First: I had to include the qualifier of injuries because it truly is the only thing could stop Ovechkin cold. Pretty much any substantial contract ever looks terrible if the guy gets injured – as injuries are generally terrible. But it’s a big variable – a big injury COULD happen, or Ovechkin could suffer a few minor injuries, or Ovechkin can dodge most injuries. You can’t overlook what you can’t possibly predict – I’m not a psychic.

Second: 13 years is too long? When you have a special player, the idea is to tie him up for as long as you can. Lidstrom, Brodeur, etc. took less money perhaps, but they’ve pretty much signed deals that will take them to the end of their careers. The Capitals want Ovechkin for the large part of his career,- so it has to be 13 years it is. If the Caps only signed him for 6 years, you’d likely see 30 NHL teams try to move Heaven and Earth to snag him at the prime age of 28 (or whatever it is 6 years from now). The Caps don’t want to let their superstar slip away right at his prime. Especially considering they did it at least once in the past with Scott Stevens.

Third: Feel free to quibble about the money; but he’s playing like a max-value player right now and he’s only going to get better. I mean, we’re talking about a player who may be expected to hit 45-50 goals, and is on pace of cracking 55-60.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:17 am Frisby

Damn you, Oookies, at first I thought you were doing the white text on a background trick. But after highlighting the text I see that I just didn’t get it at first. That’s it, I’m going to bed.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:17 am Schnookie

I totally got tricked into buying Caps tickets today. I’m so ashamed.

Oh Matt, that’s terrible! I hope it’s not 13 years’ worth of Caps tickets…
on January 12, 2008 at 12:18 am Matt

Third: Feel free to quibble about the money; but he’s playing like a max-value player right now and he’s only going to get better. I mean, we’re talking about a player who may be expected to hit 45-50 goals, and is on pace of cracking 55-60.

Rebuttal: One name. Eric Lindros.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:19 am Matt

I hope it’s not 13 years’ worth of Caps tickets…

They tried to convince me, but I couldn’t justify the cost.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:21 am Schnookie

Damn you, Oookies, at first I thought you were doing the white text on a background trick. But after highlighting the text I see that I just didn’t get it at first.

I know, it was a very subtle and clever joke. I’m so sorry to have confused you that much! :P

but he’s playing like a max-value player right now and he’s only going to get better.

That’s exactly what people were saying about Keith Tkachuk 13 years ago when we first started watching hockey. :P (But really, if he’s committed enough to being a Cap for life, then one would imagine the Caps wouldn’t be worried about Ovie “slipping away in his prime”, and could just work on the UFA contract extension in 6 years when they have a better idea of the financial situation they’re going to be in then. I dunno. It all just seems to me like a far better PR move for Leonsis than a hockey move for the Capitals.)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:22 am Schnookie

Rebuttal: One name. Eric Lindros.

BURN!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:24 am CapsChick

You girls are sooooo funny. Ha…ha. :P

John Fischer, you are my new favorite person. Can I come lurk around your blog now?

Matt – gotcha! Mwahahahaha…
on January 12, 2008 at 12:25 am CapsChick

Oh, and good GOD!! PLEASE never mention Eric Lindros in the same breath as Ovie ever again. Ick and ugh and puke.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:26 am Schnookie

You girls are sooooo funny. Ha…ha. :P

I know we are. Thanks. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 12:27 am Schnookie

PLEASE never mention Eric Lindros in the same breath as Ovie ever again. Ick and ugh and puke.

Get used to it! Until the second half of that contract can be insured, I think you’ll be hearing a lot of it. :P
on January 12, 2008 at 12:27 am Matt

but he’s playing like a max-value player right now and he’s only going to get better.

This phrase pisses me off, because every possible future has odds that say he won’t keep improving. Maybe it’s a bad injury, or a coke addiction, or he knocks up a girl and has a mental breakdown. When you throw that much possibility and attention at a young kid, bad things happen. And maybe it’s just because I don’t like him, but a kid that’s as pompous and inconsiderate as he is looks like he’e setting himself up for a big fall.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:28 am Pookie

You girls are sooooo funny. Ha…ha. :P

Hm, CC, you make this sound like this post was meant as some kind of joke…

:P
on January 12, 2008 at 12:28 am Schnookie

Oh, and Matt, is the construction job finished?
on January 12, 2008 at 12:29 am Matt

Until the second half of that contract can be insured, I think you’ll be hearing a lot of it. :P

That’s the ONE THING Ted can be damn sure of. You know damn well he has that contract insured with the one and only company in the world that’d touch it with a 40-foot stick.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:29 am Pookie

but he’s playing like a max-value player right now and he’s only going to get better.

I think that the biggest issue with whether this is a good deal or not actually has little to do with Ovie’s personal stats and the likelihood of his improvement. As a Devils fan, I find myself viewing this from a team perspective and I cannot believe that this is a good move for the Caps as a team over the next 13 years.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:29 am CapsChick

Get used to it! Until the second half of that contract can be insured, I think you’ll be hearing a lot of it. :P

Meh. I guess it’s better than Jagr comparisons (oh, and the “pundits” can stop using that one now too). I hated Lindros but never as much as Jagr, before and after he was a Cap.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:31 am Matt

Oh, and Matt, is the construction job finished?

Construction is finished for now, although I bought the wrong size bolts for attaching it to the bed frame (I need 1/4″, not 3/8″). The first coat of paint is drying right now. Second coat goes on tomorrow morning, graphics hopefully tomorrow afternoon, and the glass installation Sunday morning.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:32 am Pookie

Oh, one more thing about Ovie’s personal stats, now that I’ve said they don’t matter, don’t players historically peak at 23? Sure he’s getting better now but is he really going to be on pace for 55 this year and then 60 the next and then 65 the year after and 70 the year after that? It just doesn’t (or at least hasn’t) worked that way for that long.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:32 am Matt

Oh, and Matt, is the construction job finished?

Progress report #1 is up at Bowl of Pork, btw.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:33 am Pookie

Matt, according to Martle, only the first 6 years can be insured right now.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:34 am CapsChick

And maybe it’s just because I don’t like him, but a kid that’s as pompous and inconsiderate as he is looks like he’e setting himself up for a big fall.

Wow…you REALLY don’t like him! I’ve never heard anyone refer to him that way ever, seriously – people who have met him, the whole organization, everyone just raves about how down to earth and kind he is. He’s got the brash arrogance of a superstar, sure, but you can argue that Sid and others do too. When you’re that good it’s hard not to know it.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:34 am Matt

I’m actually really surprised we haven’t heard more comparisons of AO to DP. Massive long term contracts aside, what did DP look like last year? He was having a breakout year, leading a terrible team on a strong playoff run. This year? Uh…. not so much.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:34 am Schnookie

I just checked out the pictures over on Bowl of Pork — I can’t wait to see the paint job! That’s some fancy construction work there! (I am utterly incompetent at that sort of thing. I literally failed wood shop in 8th grade.)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:36 am Matt

Wow…you REALLY don’t like him!

I hate OV as much as I hate Brett Hull, the Leafs, anything and everything from Philly, the Dallas Cowboys and the Manchester United combined!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:36 am Meg

Oh, one more thing about Ovie’s personal stats, now that I’ve said they don’t matter, don’t players historically peak at 23? Sure he’s getting better now but is he really going to be on pace for 55 this year and then 60 the next and then 65 the year after and 70 the year after that? It just doesn’t (or at least hasn’t) worked that way for that long.

Well, peak age depends on position but I think even for forwards it’s most often a bit later than that. But he can’t be expected to keep improving of course. He should peak and begin to decline during the course of this contract.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:36 am CapsChick

I think players peak historically at around 28 or 29, Pookie – that was part of the reasoning behind not letting Ovie’s deal expire (that would have been the 6 year one). They didn’t want him to be a UFA right in his prime.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:36 am Pookie

Maybe we haven’t heard that comparison, Matt, because Ovie’s never lead his terrible team on a strong playoff run — or any kind of playoff run?

(Sorry, CC.)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:36 am Schnookie

*Tiny voice* (Matt, I agree with you about Ovie’s personality. I just get a vibe from him that, beyond my personal belief that you should never put so much faith in the idea of a power forward holding up at that kind of level for any extended period of time, he’s not the kind of guy I’d want to be trying to single-handedly build my team around.)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:38 am Frisby

I know, it was a very subtle and clever joke. I’m so sorry to have confused you that much! :P

Meh, it’s been a really long week. Trying to learn ASME code blah blah blah, API code blah blah blah, UL standard blah blah blah, welding symbols, welding procedures, UW(A)5(b), hydrostatic pressure…well, my brain is pretty much fried.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:38 am Pookie

I’m sorry, it’s geniuses that peak at 23. Sorry! I think statistically Wayne and Jordan had their best years at 23. And like Mozart did his best stuff then, too, or something. Ovie’s not Wayne or Jordan, so I’ll shut my ol’ piehole!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:38 am CapsChick

He should peak and begin to decline during the course of this contract.

Probably true…however by that time he’ll be one of the (hopefully) decorated veterans on the team. He’ll be looked to more for guidance and 30-40 goals a year rather than 50-60, I would guess.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:39 am Meg

just get a vibe from him that, beyond my personal belief that you should never put so much faith in the idea of a power forward holding up at that kind of level for any extended period of time, he’s not the kind of guy I’d want to be trying to single-handedly build my team around.

I feel that way as well.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:39 am Schnookie

Just to support Pookie a little, I recall reading somewhere ages ago that “geniuses” supposedly peak at 23. Apparently Mozart’s “greatest” works were written when he was 23, and, uh, there were some other useful examples, and then in the sports world, both Wayne and Michael Jordan had their best statistical seasons at 23. Of course, I’m probably totally making that up. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 12:41 am Matt

When you’re that good it’s hard not to know it.

It seems to me that all I ever hear from his mouth revolves around money and how great he is. I freely admit that I don’t watch much of the Caps and that means I probably miss a lot. Even so, I would expect that by this point I would hear him taking some blame or standing up for somebody else or saying something about anything not himself. There’s nothing wrong with pride, but people without any humility make me doubt their reliability.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:42 am Schnookie

however by that time he’ll be one of the (hopefully) decorated veterans on the team. He’ll be looked to more for guidance and 30-40 goals a year rather than 50-60, I would guess.

So you see him being Shanahan by then? I’m not sure I’d want to be giving Brendan Shanahan $10 million for what he did last year. (Or maybe he can be a $10 million Gary Roberts! Even better! :P)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:42 am Meg

It seems to me that all I ever hear from his mouth revolves around money and how great he is.

And, in his defense, how he loves hockey.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:42 am Matt

Ovie’s not Wayne or Jordan, so I’ll shut my ol’ piehole!

ZING!

Oh, and pie is 400% better than cake.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:42 am CapsChick

I don’t know. You guys don’t have to love him or even like him – I’ve seen nothing but good things from him on and off the ice, so I’m perfectly happy building my team around him. Luckily that’s a problem you all don’t have to deal with! :P

And so, admitting that she’s fighting a losing battle, this Caps fan will shuffle off into the darkness of night. Annoyed, but not defeated.

Night all! :)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:42 am Schnookie

I would expect that by this point I would hear him taking some blame or standing up for somebody else or saying something about anything not himself. There’s nothing wrong with pride, but people without any humility make me doubt their reliability.

*Tiny voice* Seconded.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:43 am Matt

And, in his defense, how he loves hockey.

Sorry I forgot that one. Money, himself, and how much he loves hockey for giving money to himself.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:43 am Schnookie

‘Night CC! Sorry we annoyed you! Really, if you’d come with news it was only a 6-year deal we’d probably just have congratulated you and bought you a drink. :P
on January 12, 2008 at 12:44 am CapsChick

Even so, I would expect that by this point I would hear him taking some blame or standing up for somebody else or saying something about anything not himself.

I think you just haven’t seen enough of him, because he actually does that all the time – and he rarely ever talks about money, i’m not sure where that came from. But when they lose and he doesn’t score or he has a bad game he’s the first to admit it. He always takes the blame on himself. He defends the goalies and his linemates when they mess up. I guess i’m just spoiled, I get to see it all the time – you get the narrow view of the media.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:45 am Pookie

Good night, CapsChick! Don’t be annoyed! We’re just a bunch of cynical old farts over here.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:45 am Matt

so I’m perfectly happy building my team around him. Luckily that’s a problem you all don’t have to deal with! :P

I can respect that, at least. Just remember that we will remember your support for this contract and hold you to it!

**writes it in his notebook**
on January 12, 2008 at 12:45 am Schnookie

Sorry I forgot that one. Money, himself, and how much he loves hockey for giving money to himself.

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

(Boomer just said, “Hockey’s been ver’, ver’ good to me.”)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:46 am Caitlin

I hate OV as much as I hate Brett Hull, the Leafs, anything and everything from Philly, the Dallas Cowboys and the Manchester United combined!

Aww, Hullie’s a great guy! And you didn’t even like Man United when Keane was there?
on January 12, 2008 at 12:46 am Matt

Really, if you’d come with news it was only a 6-year deal we’d probably just have congratulated you and bought you a drink. :P

Seconded! Motion to vote!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:47 am Meg

Vanek blames himself too. Want to build a team around him?

For the record I do like Ovie, I would disapprove of this deal no matter who was given it. I don’t think it would be a smart deal for Crosby or anyone else either.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:48 am Pookie

CapsChick, I’ll trust you that he takes the blame and all that, but just to play the devil’s advocate, we don’t not hear this because of a narrow view by the media. We don’t hear about this because Ovie doesn’t make a bigger deal out of it. I expect him to, as a result of this deal, be vocal enough about his team losing that the Caps become relevant again.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:48 am Meg

Aww, Hullie’s a great guy!

::vomits::
on January 12, 2008 at 12:48 am Patty (in Dallas)

Sorry I forgot that one. Money, himself, and how much he loves hockey for giving money to himself.

And girls.

And Dolcce and Gabana.

(I’ve actually not seen him interviewed that much, I admit.)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:49 am Matt

Aww, Hullie’s a great guy! And you didn’t even like Man United when Keane was there?

I did like Hull when he almost killed the guys on live TV last year during the playoffs! That doesn’t change a cup-stealing cheating fiasco though… I’m not bitter. I’m tangy!

Oh, and I have never liked ManU. I’m a Celtic Football Club kind of guy…
on January 12, 2008 at 12:49 am Pookie

For the record I do like Ovie, I would disapprove of this deal no matter who was given it. I don’t think it would be a smart deal for Crosby or anyone else either.

Seconded, to this and to what Schnookie said about the 6-year deal thing.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:50 am Schnookie

(I’ve actually not seen him interviewed that much, I admit.)

You know what, though? You’ve still managed to hit all the major points.

Vanek blames himself too. Want to build a team around him?

ZING!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:51 am Patty (in Dallas)

Sorry, CC! Don’t be annoyed. This will all blow over until one side or the other can say I told you so. Hopefully for the Caps, it will be when we’re all old and gray.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:51 am Caitlin

That doesn’t change a cup-stealing cheating fiasco though… I’m not bitter. I’m tangy!

Oh, and I have never liked ManU. I’m a Celtic Football Club kind of guy…

So you dug it when Keane went to Celtic, then?! Hee. I heart Keane.

I have no comments on “cup-stealing cheating fiasco” :D.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:51 am Matt

And I would even support a longer than 6-year deal. I could get behind something like an 8 or maybe even 9. But 13? That’s insane.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:53 am Heather B.

I have no comments on “cup-stealing cheating fiasco” :D.

Because there is no comment to be made except for maybe, “Whoops! Sorry!” :P
on January 12, 2008 at 12:53 am Matt

So you dug it when Keane went to Celtic, then?! Hee. I heart Keane.

Yeah, I was just relieved he didn’t end up in Madrid.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:55 am Schnookie

I could get behind something like an 8 or maybe even 9.

Yeah, I agree with that.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:55 am CapsChick

Ha! Thought you got rid of me – but like a weed I just won’t die…

We don’t hear about this because Ovie doesn’t make a bigger deal out of it.

He DOES though, that’s the thing. He says it in postgame press conferences all the time, he talks about it in the paper, and he’s become really vocal on the ice.

But the Caps don’t get much national coverage – they barely get local coverage. And frankly that’s true of almost any team. I don’t hear a lot about your guys doing that either, but I assume they are. I never knew Vanek took the blame for things, but I trust you, Meg (and if Vanek was as talented as Ovie and being groomed for that role, yes I would…he’s talented, don’t get me wrong, but not in the same way).

The only one I hear about is Sid, which is fine, but that doesn’t mean that other people don’t do it.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:55 am Meg

I have no comments on “cup-stealing cheating fiasco” :D.

A lady who knows better than to argue in circles, clearly. :)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:59 am Meg

I never knew Vanek took the blame for things, but I trust you, Meg (and if Vanek was as talented as Ovie and being groomed for that role, yes I would…he’s talented, don’t get me wrong, but not in the same way).

Vanek would probably benefit from long visits with a pychologist at this point. What I was trying to say though, was that even if Vanek were as talented as Ovie (and you don’t need to qualify that–he’s not by any means) he still wouldn’t be the guy I’d want to build a team around. It’s not that I dont want him on the Sabres, it’s that I think someone else needs to be the guy, if that makes sense.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:00 am Matt

But the Caps don’t get much national coverage – they barely get local coverage. And frankly that’s true of almost any team.

I do hear that DC is pretty much a wasteland for coverage. The striking part is that even in NJ, a land perennially called dead to hockey, we get pretty good coverage of even the Western teams. You hear players like Sakic manning up when it’s their fault. You hear Gretzky talking about failures in the room. We hear about VinnyL and guys like Stumpel when they own up to weak games. But Ovie? We don’t see it. It very well could be NYC blinders on to everything DC, I don’t know. I just haven’t seen anything that makes me not dislike him.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:01 am Schnookie

A lady who knows better than to argue in circles, clearly. :)

Which is why you’re banned, Caitlin! You have to be willing to argue in circles to hang around here! (Okay, I’m just looking for an excuse to get rid of my top gregbunny rival…)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:01 am CapsChick

It does make sense, Meg – I guess I’ve just seen enough leadership qualities in Ovie that make me proud to have my team built around him. I’ve known they were going to do that anyways, even before this contract, and it’s starting to work.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:02 am Matt

A lady who knows better than to argue in circles, clearly. :)

DAMMIT! My daily attempt to start the arguement that gets me banned has failed again! Drat….
on January 12, 2008 at 1:02 am Pookie

I don’t hear a lot about your guys doing that either, but I assume they are.

A) None of our guys take blame for anything. They stay silent and then shoot pucks at the coach when he’s not looking.

B) There’s nothing for them to take blame for because they’re division leaders.

:)

Okay, seriously, a contract like that requires that Ovie perform on such a level (and by that I mean make his team win regularly) the it forces the national media to pay attention. Based on the last two years, the NHL and the media want desperately for Ovie to be a star. But poor play by the team and poor attendance make it hard for them to justify talking about him or showing Caps games in marquee tv slots. Those are the Caps’ problems, not the NHL’s.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:03 am Matt

Hrm…. I wonder if poor diction, bad spelling and excessive punctuation would get me booted.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:04 am CapsChick

But Ovie? We don’t see it.

To be fair, until this season he was rarely being interviewed after games…his grasp of English still wasn’t that strong and he didn’t feel that comfortable doing it.

And I have to ask – do you see anyone from the Caps? Because at the beginning of the year when they were losing, and after Hanlon was fired, everyone (including Ovie) was taking the blame. I’m wondering if any of that got out, because it was everywhere down here.

Matt, i’m going to make it my quest to make you like him a little bit ;) I’ll have to go digging around for interviews or something, or bring you to a game with me. You need to be enlightened. (I’ve given up on the Ookies – I thought they liked him, but clearly they don’t :P)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:04 am Pookie

Matt you know what will get you banned. You’re not going to be able to resist that “Lou’s evil” argument. Instant banishment, believe you me!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:04 am Heather B.

I just haven’t seen anything that makes me not dislike him.

Awwww, not even “I swear my mom!” :-)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:04 am Meg

I guess I’ve just seen enough leadership qualities in Ovie that make me proud to have my team built around him.

Fair enough. As I said, it’s not my objection to the contract anyway. I just think it’s a risk I wouldn’t take or want my team to take due primarily to injury concerns. It’s just a more cautious approach, that’s all. :)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:06 am Caitlin

Because there is no comment to be made except for maybe, “Whoops! Sorry!” :P

Or maybe, “We totally won it, fair and square!”

A lady who knows better than to argue in circles, clearly. :)

After the Cowboys and the Stars, I (sort of) know better!!

Yeah, I was just relieved he didn’t end up in Madrid.

No love for Madrid? But…but…Zidane played for them!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:06 am CapsChick

And on that note…I really am leaving. Sorry to take over the conversation – feel free to bitch about me when I’m gone ;)

…although you never really know if I’m gone, now do you?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:07 am Matt

Matt, i’m going to make it my quest to make you like him a little bit ;)
If you persist on this route, you shall find yourself old and feeble, having failed as Parzival. Nobody can make me like this man.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:08 am Schnookie

DAMMIT! My daily attempt to start the arguement that gets me banned has failed again! Drat….

You really do suck at this “getting banned” thing.

And CC, in some respects I do like Ovie. But this contract really changes how I look at him, and that’s just part of the deal. Ask Vanek. I think he’s a perfectly cromulent NHL star, and he reminds me charmingly of the crazy Russian exchange students I knew in high school. But “13 years, $124 million” is not really a phrase I often think about pairing with “crazy Russian exchange student I knew in high school”.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:08 am Caitlin

(Okay, I’m just looking for an excuse to get rid of my top gregbunny rival…)

Whatevs! FIHT! Don’t you dare try and Roenack Wyshynski from me!

I’ve advanced my dictation schedule. Greg, I’m available for dictation….right now! :p
on January 12, 2008 at 1:09 am Heather B.

It’s just a more cautious approach, that’s all. :)

Ah, truly a hockey fan raised by Darcy Regier.

Or maybe, “We totally won it, fair and square!”

Please ignore the man the behind the current quickly and quietly taking crease rule off the books and *then* saying, “Ha! Ha! That was never a *real* rule!”

This is why Buffalonians are bitter cynics you think the world’s against them, you know? :-P
on January 12, 2008 at 1:09 am Meg

Or maybe, “We totally won it, fair and square!”

Well, you won it, anyway.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:10 am Matt

No love for Madrid? But…but…Zidane played for them!

EXACTLY!!!

…although you never really know if I’m gone, now do you?

I can see it now… CC and I, up all week, throwing up random offensive posts at all hours of the night to see who replies, getting instant responses and thinking to ourselves “Damn. I have to do better… really screw with their mind, but this time at 9:17am when they’re in the bathroom!”
on January 12, 2008 at 1:10 am Schnookie

I’ve advanced my dictation schedule. Greg, I’m available for dictation….right now! :p

Too late! I’m taking dictation AS WE SPEAK!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:11 am Caitlin

This is why Buffalonians are bitter cynics you think the world’s against them, you know? :-P

I don’t blame you in the slightest, actually. After those Super Bowls and the ’99 Cup, if I were from Buffalo, I’d be bitter too.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:11 am Heather B.

Gah! Man behind the CURTAIN! I can’t type! This ankle injury is infecting my fingers!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:11 am Schnookie

“Damn. I have to do better… really screw with their mind, but this time at 9:17am when they’re in the bathroom!”

:^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
on January 12, 2008 at 1:11 am Meg

Ah, truly a hockey fan raised by Darcy Regier.

I very nearly mentioned that, Heather. What can I say, he’s the only GM I’ve known.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:12 am CapsChick

After those Super Bowls

MwaHA!! Wasn’t one of those against the Skins?

(See, Matt? You’re on, let’s rumble!)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:12 am Matt

This is why Buffalonians are bitter cynics you think the world’s against them, you know? :-P

Oh, it goes much deeper than that, but this is a good example anyway =)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:13 am Heather B.

I don’t blame you in the slightest, actually. After those Super Bowls and the ‘99 Cup, if I were from Buffalo, I’d be bitter too.

You forgot the goal the went in the side of the net and the Music City Miracle. Not that we’re keeping track or anything…
on January 12, 2008 at 1:13 am Matt

MwaHA!! Wasn’t one of those against the Skins?

Bah! I’m a Giants fan.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:14 am Pookie

Matt, we have an army of robots that is trained to respond to offensive comments at all hours. I really did have a giggle at Greg’s comment that he didn’t leave a comment on IPB the other day because “he wasn’t sure anyone would see it”. HA! The sun never sets on IPB! We’re always here! Just ask those weirdos who keep leaving comments on our “Why We Hate the Sens” post from May.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:14 am Caitlin

Too late! I’m taking dictation AS WE SPEAK!

NOOOOO!!!!

Greg, how could you? I bought a new dictation pad, tousled my hair just right and I even brought you a fresh bottle of Stolichnaya.

My heart is broken. Permanently.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:14 am Heather B.

I very nearly mentioned that, Heather. What can I say, he’s the only GM I’ve known.

Yep, same here. I think I would agree with his general approach anyway, but I’m sure it has affected how I look at things like this. Mark and I were discussing Darcy’s reaction to Ovie’s contract earlier today actually.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:15 am Schnookie

Ah, truly a hockey fan raised by Darcy Regier.

I very nearly mentioned that, Heather. What can I say, he’s the only GM I’ve known.

It’s true that coming to a place where a bunch of people who cheer for Regier/Lamoriello-run teams is probably not a great tactic when you’re looking for some high fives for a 13-year $124 million contract. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 1:15 am Matt

Not that we’re keeping track or anything…

…the curse of the bat…..
on January 12, 2008 at 1:15 am Caitlin

EXACTLY!!!

DON’T YOU HATE ON ZIDANE!

Next thing you’re gonna tell me you loathe Trezeguet.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:16 am Heather B.

. I really did have a giggle at Greg’s comment that he didn’t leave a comment on IPB the other day because “he wasn’t sure anyone would see it”.

I thought that was funn too. Even if only one person had seen it, that one person would’ve made sure everyone else knew about it. We’re good like that :-)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:16 am Matt

Not that we’re keeping track or anything…

…the curse of the bat…..
on January 12, 2008 at 1:18 am Heather B.

It’s true that coming to a place where a bunch of people who cheer for Regier/Lamoriello-run teams is probably not a great tactic when you’re looking for some high fives for a 13-year $124 million contract. :D

True! I’m sure the 6 and 7 year deals that Roy and Vanek got came close to giving Darcy a stroke. Thirteen years? Might’ve killed him.

…the curse of the bat…

Yes! See, it never ends in Buffalo!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:18 am Schnookie

You forgot the goal the went in the side of the net

Didn’t you guys win that series anyway? Or am I making that up?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:19 am CapsChick

It’s true that coming to a place where a bunch of people who cheer for Regier/Lamoriello-run teams is probably not a great tactic when you’re looking for some high fives for a 13-year $124 million contract. :D

Yeah…didn’t think about that. Of course, I come from decades of being burned by our big stars (AHEM) leaving and being more successful elsewhere. I guess I’m just glad to see one a) that ownership wants to keep and b) that wants to stay.

Matt and everyone else: watch this video. It’s adorable. I don’t know if it’ll make you like him more, but it’ll make you laugh.

…did I say I was leaving? I heard no such thing. Lies. LIES I TELL YOU!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:19 am Matt

Next thing you’re gonna tell me you loathe Trezeguet.

Nah, no laothing there. But I hate all other popular sports stars in every league worldwide, except for:

Vinny Testeverde
Jose Reyes
Federov
on January 12, 2008 at 1:22 am Schnookie

I come from decades of being burned by our big stars (AHEM) leaving and being more successful elsewhere.

What are you talking about? Your most recent big star was a guy you all ended up paying the Rangers to take off your hands! :P

(@@@@ I couldn’t resist.)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:22 am Caitlin

I thought that was funn too. Even if only one person had seen it, that one person would’ve made sure everyone else knew about it. We’re good like that :-)

Oh, Greg. It would not have been seen? That killed me. Come on, honey.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:23 am Matt

Matt and everyone else: watch this video.

He reminds me of some of my frat brothers. Not really the kind of guys I’d want to hire/depend on, though
on January 12, 2008 at 1:24 am Heather B.

Didn’t you guys win that series anyway? Or am I making that up?

You’re making that up. (Ummm… I don’t know. Before my time. Soooo not the point :P)

CC, the Ovie hole-in-one video is still my favorite. The Segway is cool though.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:25 am Patty (in Dallas)

Just ask those weirdos who keep leaving comments on our “Why We Hate the Sens” post from May.

Seriously?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:26 am Schnookie

He reminds me of some of my frat brothers. Not really the kind of guys I’d want to hire/depend on, though

Exactly! It’s the crazy Russian exchange student thing, but frattier!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:26 am Heather B.

Nah, no laothing there. But I hate all other popular sports stars in every league worldwide

Mike Piazza? David Wright?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:26 am Pookie

Seriously, Patty. We keep getting zany Sens fans accusing us of being Leafs fans. Riiiiight.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:28 am CapsChick

Yeah, well, Schnookie…jokes on them. He sucks for them too. Bastard asshat toolbag puffnuts fuckhead.

…I mean, who? Who is this? ;)

Well, I wouldn’t hire him based on that video, Matt, but it’s pretty funny…plus it’s obvious how much the guys love him. This is a shit-kicker kind of team, you know? Hard working, not a TON of talented guys – you can’t be arrogant and asshole-ish on a team like that and still have them like you.

*sigh* And the quest continues.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:28 am Schnookie

Seriously?

Yes. They accuse us of being jealous Leafs fans. The more I encounter them, the more I wonder about the reading comprehension skills of the Senators faithful. I mean, there are a few cues on this site that suggest we’re not Leafs fans, right? Am I making that up? Am I expecting too much of the casual reader?

(Ummm… I don’t know. Before my time. Soooo not the point :P)

Heh. I just mention it because if we’re going to start whining about injustices our teams faced while winning, I’ve got a LONG list of grievances. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 1:28 am Matt

Didn’t you guys win that series anyway? Or am I making that up?

You’re making that up. (Ummm… I don’t know. Before my time. Soooo not the point :P)

No, we lost it. **fingers crossed, nodding his head up and down, trying to sell you a used car**
on January 12, 2008 at 1:28 am Caitlin

Nah, no laothing there. But I hate all other popular sports stars in every league worldwide, except for:

Vinny Testeverde
Jose Reyes
Federov

Please tell me you’re not serious on Sergei Fedorov. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 1:30 am Schnookie

jokes on them. He sucks for them too. Bastard asshat toolbag puffnuts fuckhead.

Don’t you mean “Bastard asshat toolbag puffnuts fuckhead who’s made the playoffs the last two years”? :P

(And yes, that hurt a huge piece of my soul to say that, but still, I could. Not. Resist.)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:30 am Heather B.

I just mention it because if we’re going to start whining about injustices our teams faced while winning, I’ve got a LONG list of grievances.

We know, we know… Giggy is very sorry about the Conn Smythe, okay?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:32 am CapsChick

Yeah, well, Schnookie, if you recall…the Caps made the playoffs his first few years here, too. I’m just sayin’.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:33 am Matt

Mike Piazza? David Wright?

I forgot to add Sandy Alomar (Jr.) to that list.

you can’t be arrogant and asshole-ish on a team like that and still have them like you

Was hard to tell if they were laughing with him or at him, though.

Yes. They accuse us of being jealous Leafs fans.

Don’t forget: Ottowa/Toronto is like NYC/LA in that to anybody who’s lived there too long, there’s a bunch of empty space between those cities… they are the only cities on earth
on January 12, 2008 at 1:33 am Pookie

Heather, Earl’s Giggy 2003 Conn Smythe alarm is going off now! He’ll be here any minute to start arguing!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:33 am Schnookie

We know, we know… Giggy is very sorry about the Conn Smythe, okay?

That’s WAAAAAAAAAAAAY down the list. There are quite a few entries above it that involve Pando, Kerry Fraser, and waved-off goals. :D

(Oh, and :^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:34 am Matt

Please tell me you’re not serious on Sergei Fedorov. :D

WOndered if anybody was gonna bite onto that dangling hook… Yes, that was a joke.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:34 am Schnookie

Yeah, well, Schnookie, if you recall…the Caps made the playoffs his first few years here, too. I’m just sayin’.

And thank heavens the Caps had him locked in to a long-term, big-money deal! :P
on January 12, 2008 at 1:35 am CapsChick

*whispers* I never liked Sergei Fedorov.

…am I banninated?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:35 am Meg

Well, I promised my roommate I’d go ice skating with her tomorrow so I need to go to bed now. Have a nice night (morning?) everyone.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:35 am Schnookie

WOndered if anybody was gonna bite onto that dangling hook… Yes, that was a joke.

I was going to say something, but then remembered the pictures on Bowl of Pork of those power tools, so I decided just to slowly back away.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:35 am Matt

And thank heavens the Caps had him locked in to a long-term, big-money deal! :P

**snort**
**snort**
**choke, fall out of chair**
**snortgiggle**
on January 12, 2008 at 1:36 am Schnookie

‘Night Meg! Have fun skating!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:36 am Caitlin

*whispers* I never liked Sergei Fedorov.

…am I banninated?

If that’s the case we’re banninated…together.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:36 am CapsChick

OVIE IS NOT JAGR. GRRRRRR. They are exactly, completely opposite in every way except maybe in their ability as hockey players. And if that ability includes actually giving 100% on every shift, chalk another one up for Ovie.

:P
on January 12, 2008 at 1:36 am Heather B.

Heather, Earl’s Giggy 2003 Conn Smythe alarm is going off now! He’ll be here any minute to start arguing!

Oh, delightful! Nothing like an Ookies-Earl fight. I’ll be entertained all night :-)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:37 am Matt

I was going to say something, but then remembered the pictures on Bowl of Pork of those power tools, so I decided just to slowly back away.

Hey, you leave my power tools out of this! I do my “wet work” with my own two hands, thank you very much. Nothing says lovin’ like a good garotting….
on January 12, 2008 at 1:37 am Schnookie

*whispers* I never liked Sergei Fedorov.

…am I banninated?

Seriously, hating Fedorov is a unifying thing for hockey fans everywhere, right?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:39 am Heather B.

CC, my heart is hurting for you. Please run now! This is all very amusing and I can appreciate you sticking up for your guy – try defending Darcy Regier all summer – but you need to go before this kils you!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:40 am Matt

And if that ability includes actually giving 100% on every shift, chalk another one up for Ovie.

Was this before or after he took all those supposedly “mild” concussions? You better buy Ovie one of those new, double-inflatable helmets…
on January 12, 2008 at 1:40 am Schnookie

Nothing says lovin’ like a good garotting….

Awww… for me? You really shouldn’t have! *Gack, strangle, gargle, hiss…*
on January 12, 2008 at 1:41 am Matt

Awww… for me? You really shouldn’t have! *Gack, strangle, gargle, hiss…*

Luca Brasi sends his fondest regards…
on January 12, 2008 at 1:42 am Matt

OOOOOO!! It’s time for the second coat of white to go on! Back in 10!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:43 am Schnookie

Have fun painting, Matt!

Luca Brasi sends his fondest regards…

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
on January 12, 2008 at 1:44 am CapsChick

Matt, Ovie dishes out the concussions. He’s a beast – I’m not worried. The kid took a skate to the thigh, had 15 stitches and went out to score 4 goals the next game.

Heather, I may have to agree with you – so much blind hatred for my little Oviekins! I know you love him but everyone else…*sniffle* I just…can’t…take…anymore. ;)

You all are insane and I love you for it – and I really, truly am going now.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:45 am Katebits

I love Ovie! Totally. Love. Him. I’m not so sure about that contract though.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:46 am Matt

Matt, Ovie dishes out the concussions.

Jagr was a pretty heavy hitter in his day too. Maybe he just figured out a bit sooner that the arthritis and bone damage would be too much by age 35…
on January 12, 2008 at 1:46 am Pookie

Good night, CC! I’ll bid you fond adieu with a little Cutting Edge humor.

The kid took a skate to the thigh, had 15 stitches and went out to score 4 goals the next game.

And the worst it ever was he scored 6 goals in the first two periods.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:46 am Schnookie

If you are really and truly leaving, CC, ‘night! Thanks for coming by, even though we’re heaping on the abuse! (And you know it’s nothing personal — just have Ted shave four years off the contract and we’ll completely back off. :D)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:46 am Heather B.

You all are insane and I love you for it – and I really, truly am going now.

Oh, good! Now I can tell you guys how I really feel about Ovie! ;-)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:47 am Schnookie

Jagr was a pretty heavy hitter in his day too. Maybe he just figured out a bit sooner that the arthritis and bone damage would be too much by age 35…

Jagr was also one of those “he loves the game so much!” guys when he was in his early 20s, too. Just sayin’.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:47 am Matt

just have Ted shave four years off the contract and we’ll completely back off. :D)

Back off, yes. Like him, no.

Pbbbbbbbt!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:49 am Schnookie

Back off, yes. Like him, no.

Pbbbbbbbt!

That’s the spirit we like here at IPB! Never give up! Never surrender!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:59 am Caitlin

Luca Brasi sends his fondest regards…

Have I mentioned how much I really like you, Matt?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:01 am Matt

Oh, good! Now I can tell you guys how I really feel about Ovie! ;-)

It’s ok, Heather. I knew how you truly felt the moment I saw your first post. I have a finely tuned Bullshit Detector, after years of the Regas’.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:03 am Caitlin

I still like Ovechkin. A lot.

“It okay, you can be assist,” will never get old.

*ducks*
on January 12, 2008 at 2:03 am Matt

Have I mentioned how much I really like you, Matt?

Wow. Somebody around whom I can:

1) Rant and rave about Ovie
2) Put on a dress and try to tempt Joe Thornton
3) Openly and honestly discuss my infatuation with strangulation as a legitimate business method.

I am sooooo home.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:05 am Matt

Oh, and I forgot the best part…

**signals the Maestro**

TANGO!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:07 am Heather B.

It’s ok, Heather. I knew how you truly felt the moment I saw your first post. I have a finely tuned Bullshit Detector, after years of the Regas’.

No, I do like him. I see what you guys are saying about the fratty aspects of his personality, but he makes me laugh. Hey, I’m easy. I wouldn’t touch his contract with a 39 and a half foot pole, but I have no real beef with him personally. I think hockey could use more characters and he’s definitely that.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:07 am Caitlin

That’s the spirit we like here at IPB! Never give up! Never surrender!

I see this applies to gregbunnying as well for you, Schnookie.

Sigh.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:11 am Matt

I think hockey could use more characters and he’s definitely that.

I’m really not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I absolutely agree that a greater number of distinct personalities and images can only be good for the sport. On the other, I’m afraid that encouraging characters is going to bring our favorite past time down to the level of pro football and baseball in the country. I’m really tired of hearing about the dog fighting, the steroids, the jail terms, assault, drugs and the rest. I like that somehow our sport has avoided these problems (or maybe just hushed them up very well) and I want to discourage anything that could change that.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:12 am Schnookie

I see this applies to gregbunnying as well for you, Schnookie.

I NEVER BACK DOWN. EVER. No matter how wrong I am, no matter how stupid I sound, no matter how much no one cares what I think or what I’m doing. You WILL be second in the gregbunny line, Caitlin. Mark. My. Words. *Narrows eyes threateningly* *No, wait, narrows eyes boozily, and wonders why her cocktail glass is empty again.*
on January 12, 2008 at 2:14 am Matt

*No, wait, narrows eyes boozily, and wonders why her cocktail glass is empty again.*

Oh my lord! How have I failed to notice that my glass has been empty for at least 2 hours? Damn you, power tools! I can’t resist you graceful curves and illicit smells.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:14 am Heather B.

I like that somehow our sport has avoided these problems (or maybe just hushed them up very well) and I want to discourage anything that could change that.

While I get what you’re saying (and agree), I think a kid being kind of goofy, refreshingly direct, and perhaps a little arrogant is a far cry from dog fighting, assault, and jail time. How about changing “characters” to “discernible personalties”?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:15 am Pookie

Speaking of cocktail glasses being empty, my dark and stormy is starting to take it’s toll (that and I was up at 7:30 this morning) so I think I’m going to mosey off to bed. Unlike Meg I don’t have a good excuse like skating; just a day of sitting on the couch watching hockey all day. Woo-hoo!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:15 am Schnookie

I think hockey could use more characters and he’s definitely that.

You know who else is a character? Sean Avery. And would you give him Ovechkin’s contract? Hold on… *does some mental calculations*… Well, Avery is, I’m told, the Rangers’ MVP, and they’re not in the playoffs right now, and Ovechkin is the Caps’ MVP and they’re not in the playoffs right now… Never mind! I totally would give him that contract.

*Narrows eyes boozily, and wonders why her cocktail glass is empty again. Again.*
on January 12, 2008 at 2:16 am DS

Hi gang…

Two+ days of reading comments later:

Y’know, my initial reaction to the whole Wyshynski thing (since I’ve been declaiming him as an asshat for weeks now ;) was indignation on the part of IPB that he doesn’t credit the comments for his source material!

Oh yeah. Like it’s really a coincidence that he just happened to come up with this right after I post the links in *here*.
Because those forums? Are kinda the back-ass end of nowhere.

Although P-blog’s now linked to them too, so I can only imagine how much more voyeuristic traffic they’re getting these days….
on January 12, 2008 at 2:16 am Schnookie

Oh my lord! How have I failed to notice that my glass has been empty for at least 2 hours? Damn you, power tools! I can’t resist you graceful curves and illicit smells.

That, sir, is a travesty.

*Hic*
on January 12, 2008 at 2:18 am Schnookie

Like it’s really a coincidence that he just happened to come up with this right after I post the links in *here*.

Dude! First Buccigross makes a Kriss Kross reference, and now this? We need to start demanding royalties for the fact that IPB’s comment threads are clearly the font from which the rest of the hockey blogosphere flows. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 2:19 am Caitlin

I NEVER BACK DOWN. EVER. No matter how wrong I am, no matter how stupid I sound, no matter how much no one cares what I think or what I’m doing. You WILL be second in the gregbunny line, Caitlin. Mark. My. Words. *Narrows eyes threateningly* *No, wait, narrows eyes boozily, and wonders why her cocktail glass is empty again.*

Second? I say, I say, I shall never be second! Where IS the good Mr. Wyshynski to settle this dispute! (Psst, I have Stoli for you, Greg.)

No one takes dictation like I do! You don’t understand what it takes to be first in line, Schnookie…the long hours, the pay in vodka only and the hand cramps! It’s so difficult, and Greg is often sparing with his praise.

I don’t care how stupid I sound or how repetitive it gets! I SHALL WIN!

Also, I have orange juice but no vodka (at least none that’s not earmarked for Greg). There’s something distinctly wrong with this picture.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:19 am Pookie

How about changing “characters” to “discernible personalties”?

Speaking of Sid, I have a new favorite game. You know that awkward commercial for NHL Network with Sid sitting in a froufry living room wearing a track suit (Nina Garcia: “Sid, enough with the matchy-matchy!”) where he says, “When I’m at home, I watch NHL Network”? Well, I like to follow every commercial I see with “When I’m eating hamburgers, I eat at Carl’s Jr! [pause] Next! When I’m buying furniture, I buy it at Menard’s! [pause] Next! When I’m medication for my gential herpes, I buy Valtrex! [pause] Next!” all in my squeakiest Sid voice.

And now I’m going to bed.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:21 am Heather B.

You know who else is a character? Sean Avery. And would you give him Ovechkin’s contract? Hold on… *does some mental calculations*

I didn’t make any connection between Ovechkin’s personality and his contract. I think I’ve been pretty clear that I think the contract is idiotic. I was just responding to the stuff about not liking him personally.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:21 am Caitlin

Y’know, my initial reaction to the whole Wyshynski thing (since I’ve been declaiming him as an asshat for weeks now ;) was indignation on the part of IPB that he doesn’t credit the comments for his source material!

WHAT?!

ASSHAT?!

*gasp* DS, no!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:23 am Matt

That, sir, is a travesty.

*Hic*

This has been corrected. Construction is done for the night and all of them have been unplugged and the blades covered. The painting is done for the night too, so the glass got filled again. Luckily, my bar is all sorts of empty and the only thing I have left here is a 28 year old bottle of scotch. Now THAT is a travesty!

A single bottle of it!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:23 am DS

What else…

DAMN YOU NEW JERSEY!!! WHY WON’T YOU COOPERATE AND *LOSE*?!

DON’T YOU KNOW BETTMAN PAID TO HAVE *EVERY* TEAM IN THE ATLANTIC GET TO LEAD THE DIVISION…

uh, I mean…
Yeah. We’re totally in a FIHT.

But it is kinda fun to go from ‘eating bugs off the basement floor’ to ‘figuring out how to get Carolina’s “division leader” spot revoked, no? :D
on January 12, 2008 at 2:24 am Schnookie

I didn’t make any connection between Ovechkin’s personality and his contract. I think I’ve been pretty clear that I think the contract is idiotic. I was just responding to the stuff about not liking him personally.

@@@@@@ I’m sorry, Heather! I totally didn’t mean comparing Ovie and Avery seriously! Kidding! Kidding! @@@@@
on January 12, 2008 at 2:26 am Heather B.

@@@@@@ I’m sorry, Heather! I totally didn’t mean comparing Ovie and Avery seriously! Kidding! Kidding! @@@@@

Wow, I can’t eat all of those! I can’t exercise for two and a half more months, you know!

I have to admit, I wasn’t totally sure if you were being serious or not. In retrospect, the drunken hiccup at the end should’ve been a tip, eh? ;-)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:26 am Matt

There is something good about eating bugs off the floor for a while. They are super-nutritions and they taste like shit. In a single shot you get motivation to do better AND the muscle to get it done, too.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:27 am Katebits

I seriously LOVE Ovechkin, and I’m not ashamed to admit it. He’s hilarious, and fun. Would I want to be friends with him, or deal with him in any kind of personal way? Probably not. But as far as NHL personalities go, I think he’s a hoot and a holler. I certainly don’t think you can attach anything nefarious to him. He may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but he’s certainly not hurting hockey (with his personality at least. (I don’t know about his contract. His contract might be hurting hockey. His contract might kill us all.)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:27 am Matt

They are super-nutritions

*hic*

Nutritious
on January 12, 2008 at 2:28 am Heather B.

DS, when I saw the boards Greg linked I totally said, “Hey, I know those boards!” :-)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:29 am Heather B.

Kate, you’re giving me a headache with your hit and run approach to commenting today :-)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:30 am Caitlin

Would I want to be friends with him, or deal with him in any kind of personal way?

Uh, I would. Imagine all the wacky hijinks that would occur! I’m still pissed no one has picked up my idea for an Alex Ovechkin reality show and greenlit that shit. It needs to happen.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:30 am Matt

Kate, you’re giving me a headache with your hit and run approach to commenting today :-)

Don’t knock it! She’s making with the funny today!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:30 am Schnookie

Matt, that scotch is super-nutritions, too.

I have to admit, I wasn’t totally sure if you were being serious or not. In retrospect, the drunken hiccup at the end should’ve been a tip, eh? ;-)

That was why I included it, yes… :P

I don’t know about his contract. His contract might be hurting hockey.

It might very well be, but more that that, his contract is hurting whatever hope he had of being my favorite player ever. The instant you sign a contract like that, all the negative gets magnified and all the positive is just “to be expected”. Even if he gives half of it to charity. :P
on January 12, 2008 at 2:32 am Heather B.

I’m still pissed no one has picked up my idea for an Alex Ovechkin reality show and greenlit that shit. It needs to happen.

I would watch it. And quite frankly, I’d be happy if Ovie never learns to speak English because I love his broken “I swear my mom” English.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:33 am Heather B.

It might very well be, but more that that, his contract is hurting whatever hope he had of being my favorite player ever.

I’m sure Ovechkin is wiping his tears with $100 bills, Schnookie :D
on January 12, 2008 at 2:35 am Caitlin

I would watch it. And quite frankly, I’d be happy if Ovie never learns to speak English because I love his broken “I swear my mom” English.

I know! It’s brillant! And Ovechkin’s just crazy insane to begin with, so imagine watching him tear around the streets of DC, being silly. Someone needs to take that boy to the Washington Monument, get his ass drunk on vodka and let him run around in the mall area with the tourists and film it. See what happens.

It would be priceless, I tell you.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:35 am Matt

Ok, it’s time for me to put the laptop away. I just spent a solid 2 minutes typing away on some mad-furious comments. I stop for a second to reread it and realize I never typed a thing in the edit box. I’m just banging away on the keyboard.

Oh and anybody else see the Islanders/Flames game tonight?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:36 am Katebits

Sorry about the hitting and running. I’m in a house full of people!

Did something interesting happen with Greg W. today?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:37 am DS

Did the Islanders lose? :D
on January 12, 2008 at 2:37 am Katebits

Goodnight Matt!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:38 am Caitlin

Did something interesting happen with Greg W. today?

Not that I’m aware of, Katebits…. unless you count the gregbunnying over here?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:39 am Matt

Did the Islanders lose? :D

No! They won! In the shootout! I couldn’t believe it!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:40 am Schnookie

I also need to go to bed. It’s, like, crazy late! What is UO with it getting so late?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:40 am Heather B.

Sorry about the hitting and running. I’m in a house full of people!

Well, I spent a lot of time answering your previous question about Vanek and draft picks so I certainly hope you go back and read it :-D :P

Nothing new with Greg. We were just discussing previous events.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:41 am Caitlin

I also need to go to bed. It’s, like, crazy late! What is UO with it getting so late?

I probably need to go to bed too…but I doubt I’d be able to sleep at this point. :D

Night, Schnookie! (Sleep with one eye open…)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:44 am Katebits

Well, I spent a lot of time answering your previous question about Vanek and draft picks so I certainly hope you go back and read it.

Actually, Heather, I TOTALLY read that. I was just too busy to re-engage as a commenter. I think it goes without saying that when I ask questions like that, what i am really looking for is your reassurance that it’s all going to be okay……and you provided that fully. So THANK YOU! :D
on January 12, 2008 at 2:46 am DS

Sabres fans (those of you who are still willing to admit it), I just wanted to offer my sympathies.

Yeah, it blows. In terms of great English, I don’t know if it’ll make you feel any better, but at least you’re not at THIS point?

Also, you’re not Toronto. That has to be worth…at least $134 million? :D
on January 12, 2008 at 2:49 am Heather B.

DS, while I would appreciate a win, I’m pretty thrilled with the Sens game. If you’d told me that team – multiple injuries, struggling to score, not working hard – would take the Sens to a 6 round shootout, I wouldn’t have believed it. Despite the loss, it was a break-through (again).

Also, that video is one of my all-time favorite coaching moments. I love it.

Kate, no problem. Just remember: Darcy is always right, fans are always wrong ;-)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:54 am DS

Heather, I did see Goose beating the crap out of Chris Neil. And then later shedding his blood for the team. And Pommerdoodle in the SO (Good boy, Pommerdoodle.) Somewhere, that racks up points. ;)

Maybe Lindy’s newest exercise can be leaving certain players to dig themselves out of the holes in his backyard?
on January 12, 2008 at 2:57 am Heather B.

Yeah, Chris Neil getting bloodied is always good for a moral victory in my book.

Maybe Lindy’s newest exercise can be leaving certain players to dig themselves out of the holes in his backyard?

Hee! I certainly hope they do an intermission feature on that!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:01 am Katebits

Dude, DS! When was that video from? Holy Toledo, that’s rough. Heh. That did kind of make me feel better.

Despite the loss, it was a break-through (again).

Yeeeah. The whole repeatedly-learning-not-to-suck-and-then-inexplicably-sucking-again, “thing”, is totally what makes me the most weary.

But Goose? LOVE HIM.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:05 am Heather B.

Yeeeah. The whole repeatedly-learning-not-to-suck-and-then-inexplicably-sucking-again, “thing”, is totally what makes me the most weary.

Yeah, I’m with you. I told Mark I wasn’t going to get excited until they played well for atleast three games in a row. But I’ll always make an exception for the Senators.

I’m not sure if that video was from last season or the season before. But it totally cracks me up. I think the line about the defensive corps goal being to be the worst defensive corp in the league gets me the most.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:07 am alix

CC, I know you’re long gone, but I LOVE Ovie! Adore him! I still think his contract is crazy long, but him as a person I am totally on board. The rest of you people are whack for not loving the Ovie :p

Oh and losing sucks. 2 in a row now. Booooo.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:10 am Katebits

Oh my GOD alix?! TWO in a ROW?! Are you sick with rage and fear? :P (Call us Sabre fans when you get to EIGHT. Then we’ll talk. Heh.)

I’m not sure if that video was from last season or the season before.

Wow. He said all that about a team Sid was on? :^:::::::::::
on January 12, 2008 at 3:10 am Katebits

I was just kidding, alix. Losing totally does suck for everyone!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:11 am Heather B.

Well, I’m not kidding. Cry me a freakin’ river, alix :D
on January 12, 2008 at 3:13 am DS

Kate, it’s from just a few weeks after MT came in, so I’m going to say, January ’06. A thing of beauty and a joy forever, isn’t it? :D
The Pens had all of 22 big wins that year, and according to “The Rookie”, never more than two consecutively. I guess it’s not so astonishing, but I’m always startled when I see how many people have played for the Pens in the last couple of years that aren’t there anymore. Shero’s pretty thorough with the housecleaning, it seems. ( In the case of the defensemen, it’s been said they generally aren’t in the NHL anymore. 9_9)

Who do you suppose would be taking the biggest cut on the Sabres if they actually tied salaries to effort? :P
on January 12, 2008 at 3:13 am Matt

Sabres fans (those of you who are still willing to admit it), I just wanted to offer my sympathies.

That’s so incredibly harsh. Not the idea that a Sabres fan would abandon the cause, but the implication that we’d lie about it! I mean, how could I, after I got Lindy’s signature tattooed on my arse?
on January 12, 2008 at 3:13 am alix

HAHAHA! As soon as I posted that, I hoped you Sabre fans had left :p Sorry my dears @@@@
on January 12, 2008 at 3:17 am Heather B.

Who do you suppose would be taking the biggest cut on the Sabres if they actually tied salaries to effort? :P

We can fully eliminate Jochen Hecht, Jason Pominville, Paul Gaustad, and Adam Mair. We can mostly eliminate Ryan Miller, Daniel Paille, Ales Kotalik, and Maxim Afinogenov (Max is a mess but effort isn’t usually a problem). It really varies from night to night but I think Derek Roy, Thomas Vanek, and the entire defense could all take a bow at certain times.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:18 am Matt

Who do you suppose would be taking the biggest cut on the Sabres if they actually tied salaries to effort? :P

Lydman. Just Lydman.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:18 am Heather B.

Though I will say there have also been plenty of nights when Vanek has been trying TOO hard. He needs to find the happy medium.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:21 am Katebits

Who do you suppose would be taking the biggest cut on the Sabres if they actually tied salaries to effort?

Roy-Z is the first one who came to mind for me.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:21 am Matt

As soon as I posted that, I hoped you Sabre fans had left :p

Sabres fans never leave, we just lurk in obscurity until the opportune moment.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:22 am Heather B.

Roy-Z is the first one who came to mind for me.

Yeah, he’s probably the worst offender. Which is frustrating because of all of the young guys I think he has the potential to be one of the best two-way players.

I feel bad that I left out Spacek. He’s played pretty hard night in and night out.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:24 am Matt

I feel bad that I left out Spacek. He’s played pretty hard night in and night out.

Considering the change in his play from last season, hell, I’ll throw half of my meager salary his way if need be!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:26 am Heather B.

Considering the change in his play from last season, hell, I’ll throw half of my meager salary his way if need be!

Yeah, it definitely has been different, that’s for sure. I think he’ll be okay without your money though, Matt.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:27 am Katebits

What the hell is wrong with them?

On the upside, I just looked at the standings (I’ve been avoiding them like the plague), and do you guys realize we are only two points out of a playoff spot? Isn’t that absolutely the weirdest thing you have ever heard? How can that be?
on January 12, 2008 at 3:29 am Matt

I think he’ll be okay without your money though, Matt.

I have problems when it comes to Gazpacho. I spent all last season hating him so, so much. Then at the end, he dropped like 20 lbs and started playing again. This year he totally blew me away with his effort and now I find myself willing to defend him against any foe, even financial suffering.

Fuck you, Gazpacho! I love you!

**whimpers**

*hic*
on January 12, 2008 at 3:32 am Heather B.

What the hell is wrong with them?

Young and too used to winning easy. They’ll come around. (I’m gonna keep saying it!)

Isn’t that absolutely the weirdest thing you have ever heard? How can that be?

Fortunately for us, we’re not the only team doing the win-a-bunch-lose-a-bunch dance. The whole conference – Ottawa excluded – has been extremely inconsistent.

Fuck you, Gazpacho! I love you!

Replace “Gazpacho” with “Derek” and you have my relationship with Roy-Z.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:35 am Matt

Ok, now I swear I’m going to bed. I have one last drunken thought of the night…

We need to bring back Stu Barnes. That way RJ can start shouting things about the Liquid Food line…. Soupy, Gazpacho and Stew.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:38 am Heather B.

We need to bring back Stu Barnes. That way RJ can start shouting things about the Liquid Food line…. Soupy, Gazpacho and Stew.

Since you’re drunk, I won’t bother pointing out that two of the people on your imaginary line are d-men (allegedly :-)

Good night, Matt!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:38 am DS

Shero said something earlier when the team was eating off the floor, about adversity:

“Good. Everything went our way last year; that’s not normal.”

Katebits, what do you suppose it was like back in the day of oh, ’91 and there were only 21 teams and 16 made the playoffs? :P
(I think people used to make fun of the NHL for that.)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:40 am DS

Night, Matt! Drink some water so you don’t feel worse in the morning!!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:42 am Matt

Since you’re drunk, I won’t bother pointing out that two of the people on your imaginary line are d-men (allegedly :-)

I thought about that, but then ignored it because Gazpacho has more points that 9 of our forwards, while Soupy has more points than 12. (obviously including call-ups and such.)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:43 am Heather B.

“Good. Everything went our way last year; that’s not normal.”

And we did that really for two years in a row. So I think they’re definitely adjusting to the idea of having to work hard every single night if they want to win. And they’re young, second youngest team in the league (conference?). They really do need to just grow up a little.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:46 am Heather B.

I thought about that, but then ignored it because Gazpacho has more points that 9 of our forwards, while Soupy has more points than 12.

Well, clearly the answer is flipping everyone around. Let Soupy and Gazpacho play forward, let Jochen and Pommers play defense.
on January 12, 2008 at 6:44 am Mags

Posting in between games and I haven’t read all the way through, so if I missed something, I’m sorry.

I luff Ovie. I do. But I don’t love his contract. I try to see players independently of the money they make, because if I think about what say, Patty Elias is making, or what Marty is earning it’s like all I see on the ice are dollar bills of various sizes. I prefer to see skill bars of various sizes.

And the only person (that I know) who has consistently earned a $9-10 million dollar salary for an extended period of time, is my mother.

Also, Gazpacho? Spacek I assume?
on January 12, 2008 at 8:13 am BrodeurIsABaby

Oh your jealousy is SO unbecoming.

And your 300 comments on every post is misleading as it’s the same 8 people commenting ad nausuem about nothing.

Too bad this blog won’t be around in years when the Crosby contract is up. Then Ovechkin will be a huge bargain.

But go back to your incestuous fun.
on January 12, 2008 at 11:46 am Gabby

I thought about ignoring my feelings about this post, but I’m feeling feisty this morning. And yes, Brodeur is a baby–a big, pink, deliciously damp baby, right after games. Yum.

Anyway, 1) How dare you be rude to these nice people here! (wags finger) Didn’t your mother teach you anything?

And 2) I don’t post on here often, as I’m disabled and exhausted, but I absolutely love reading this “incestuous group” and all their comments. Not only are they extremely funny (and hey, not all humor works for everyone, so feel free to find a blog that does work for you), but they are also exceptionally civil and mature, even with those with different opinions. It truly brightens my day to read it–it gives me that same feeling I had in college of hanging out with a great group of smart and interesting people. I suspect I am not the only lurker who feels this way.

In short, if you don’t like this group, you can probably find another one on the internet that suits you, without crapping on the lovely people here. Unless crapping on people is your idea of fun, and if it is that’s pretty sad.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm Mags

Awww, Gabby is so nice :)

As for you, Troll. Awwww, you’re so cute! But jealousy does not become you either, Troll. What you said is not very nice! And are we excessively close and resistant of outside influences? Are we really? I think, Troll, you just really need a hug.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm alix

Go Gabby! That’s so sweet!

And troll, yeah I’m really jealous of my team’s cap being handcuffed for 10+ years. I think troll, you are the baby, not Brodeur.

Sorry Ookies, if I was too rude, but I get my back up when my friends are insulted :)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm Heather B.

Yeah! Brodeur is a baby! Ha!
on January 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm Mags

Yeah, a big ol’ 6’2″, 215 pound baby. I do not envy his mother at all :P
on January 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm Mr. Frisby

Man, I feel so awful for interacting with other hockey fans from all over the globe in the comments section of a blog. And all of those conversations about beer, food, Futurama, mp3 players, and mythical creatures. I feel so ashamed, now I need a hug.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm Heather B.

You know, now that BrodeurIsABaby mentions it, I am kind of tired of looking at the same posters every day. Ookies, can you get on that? Can we bring in some new blood and lose some of the dead weight? If you want names we can talk privately.
on January 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm Mags

*gives Frisby a hug*
on January 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm Mags

Hey Heather, if you want me to go, you can just say so :P
on January 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm Heather B.

Hey Heather, if you want me to go, you can just say so :P

Well, I wasn’t going to say it to your face but… ;-)
on January 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm Mags

Well, I wasn’t going to say it to your face but… ;-)

You can add it to the list of abuse I’ve suffered at the hands of opposing teams’ fans today :P After all, Devils are playing the Sabres today.

How’s your ankle today?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm Sherry

[sing-song] Somebody is jealous! Somebody is jealous!

(Also, it seems odd you would put a site you seem to detest so much as your own URL :P)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm Gambler

Well, I wasn’t going to say it to your face but… ;-)

Mags, why do you think I got shipped off to Germany so suddenly? That Heather is a harsh mistress.

After all, Devils are playing the Sabres today.

I am so unnecessarily excited about this game! Since I don’t have class tomorrow morning, I’m going to allow myself to stay up late to watch it. It doesn’t start until 1am here, so I’m going out first and probably getting appropriately tipsy. I figure that’s the best way to watch the Sabres at this point, no?

And I know it’s already been said, but Gabby, how sweet!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm Pookie

While we can’t think of any hockey players who deserve 13-year, $124 million contracts, but Gabby? Deserves a $124 million IPBucks and a 13-year contract as a commenter! Gabby, those IPBucks are being wired to a Swiss bank account as we speak!

Everyone else her this morning gets $124 IPBucks, a bottle of IPBaileys, an autographed glossy of Greg W. and a big hug. Can you believe this is only the second time we’ve had someone come on here and leave a nasty comment like this?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm Gambler

Can you believe this is only the second time we’ve had someone come on here and leave a nasty comment like this?

Aw, I kind of miss the Gerbtard.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm Schnookie

Wow, seems I picked a bad day to sleep in!

Okay, BrodeurIsABaby, you make a great point — there are not, in fact, 300 different people commenting here. That’s quite an astute observation. However, you are not as clever as you think you are, because you failed to notice that it’s not the same 8 people talking about nothing in the threads here. It is, in fact, just me. Pretending to be everyone. Pretending even to be Pookie. I just wanted a way to feel better about my miserable, lonely, pathetic existence. I’m sorry if it offended you.

But seriously guys, BIAB brings up a very serious point. When I flipped through the appendices in the Blogging Handbook I discovered that we’re not supposed to let commentors leave more than one comment a day. Whoops! I know it’s been fun here, but could you all try to observe those regulations on your own so we don’t have to go all bad-cop on your asses? I don’t want to get in any further trouble with BIAB and the Blogging Police. Thanks.

And Gabby, you are AWESOME! :D

(As is everyone else here. Thanks for being my friends, guys!)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm Pookie

Can we bring in some new blood and lose some of the dead weight? If you want names we can talk privately.

It’ll be just like that post Katebits wrote where Crunchy got to choose which teammates he wanted to get rid of. We’ll just give you a pen and paper and you’ll scribble away all, um, 8 names. Hee hee!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm Schnookie

Oh, and I’m sorry we haven’t mentioned it before, but Brodeur really is a baby, isn’t he? If only the Devils had a player like Kolzig, maybe we’d win some Stanley Cups once in a while. Oh, wait…
on January 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm Mags

Mags, why do you think I got shipped off to Germany so suddenly? That Heather is a harsh mistress.

Omigosh, Gambler, I had no idea! She really cracks the whip like no one else eh? Making poor Hubbo get her her laptop, sleeping till 3, even Lindy is under her spell. Pffffft. I think I’m going to call her Mistress Heather now.

I think I’m going to bed in a minute and then set 3 alarms to wake me up for the game. It isn’t on tv (NFL play-offs rate higher I guess), but you can bet I’m listening to it on radio.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm Pookie

Aw, I kind of miss the Gerbtard.

Me too! I was really thinking he’d come around when the Devils — pardon me, the Debbies — played the Rangers. But, I guess the Hammer of Sleek really did him in!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm Gabby

Aw, thanks! You all are awesome…now could someone in this room of losers pass the lighter and the Haagen-Daas? I promise to not set my bangs on fire again, if you promise to talk about something new! :)

(hopes it is clear she is totally kidding)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm Pookie

I think I’m going to bed in a minute and then set 3 alarms to wake me up for the game.

We’ll shout really loud from here in Jersey. “HEY MAGS! GAME’s ON!” Will that help?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm Mags

Can you believe this is only the second time we’ve had someone come on here and leave a nasty comment like this?

Rock on, IPB!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm Schnookie

Man, I feel so awful for interacting with other hockey fans from all over the globe in the comments section of a blog. And all of those conversations about beer, food, Futurama, mp3 players, and mythical creatures.

Frisby, we’ll try to start up some splinter blogs, each one topic-specific so you can keep talking about all of those things. But just don’t go trying to mix those topics up. That’s not allowed. Oh, and you probably shouldn’t try talking to people in different countries, either. The interwebs aren’t supposed to be about bringing people together — you need to find chat rooms that are location- and topic-specific so you can converse with people in your own neighborhood about stuff. Sheesh. Don’t you know anything?

Can we bring in some new blood and lose some of the dead weight? If you want names we can talk privately.

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on January 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm Mags

You all are awesome…now could someone in this room of losers pass the lighter and the Haagen-Daas?

I’m such a big ass loser that I only have B&J’s and matches, will that do?

We’ll shout really loud from here in Jersey. “HEY MAGS! GAME’s ON!” Will that help?

You know what, it actually might :)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:21 pm Schnookie

“Mistress Heather”!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

And, Gabby, aren’t we just such a happy group of losers here? :D
on January 12, 2008 at 1:24 pm Sherry

Gah, lost my post…anyways if anybody’s interested Greg W. interviewed me and some other bloggers on FanHouse for a preview for the ‘Match of the Century’.

Omigosh, Gambler, I had no idea! She really cracks the whip like no one else eh? Making poor Hubbo get her her laptop, sleeping till 3, even Lindy is under her spell. Pffffft. I think I’m going to call her Mistress Heather now.

Hey, if Heather wants to ship me off somewhere that’s not here, I would not object :P

We might be incestuously commenting, but we stand up for one another like a good enforcer should.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm Mags

Greg W. interviewed me and some other bloggers on FanHouse for a preview for the ‘Match of the Century’.

It just came up in my bloglines, but thanks for the heads up, Sherry!

We might be incestuously commenting, but we stand up for one another like a good enforcer should.

Move over Andrew Peters :P
on January 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm Schnookie

We might be incestuously commenting, but we stand up for one another like a good enforcer should.

IPB unite! And IPB Forevah! :D

(Really, have I thanked you all yet for being so awesome?)

Should we contact WordPress about adapting our template so it doesn’t just say how many comments are on a post, but instead says how many people are commenting? I hate to be falsely advertising here.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm Pookie

We might be incestuously commenting, but we stand up for one another like a good enforcer should.

Yeah, and that BrodeurIsABaby is hiding behind the instigator rule!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm Mr. Frisby

Sheesh. Don’t you know anything?

I am so so soooo sorry, Schnookie.
*Wipes tears from eyes*
No, don’t bother getting up, I’ll let myself out.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm Mags

(Really, have I thanked you all yet for being so awesome?)

Yes, you have, but I’m sure none of us mind being thanked again :P In the same vein, have I thanked you for existing recently?
on January 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm Schnookie

*Wipes tears from eyes*
No, don’t bother getting up, I’ll let myself out.

*Shifts uncomfortably and looks anywhere but at Frisby while he shows himself out*

You are such an embarrassment, Frisby. :P
on January 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm Schnookie

In the same vein, have I thanked you for existing recently?

Well, you’re welcome! My existence is something I’m very proud of! :D
on January 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm Sherry

Move over Andrew Peters :P

We do a much better job than Peters…and we were drafted 2 rounds after!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:38 pm Pookie

Great answers, Sherry!

I would have preferred if you’d predicted a 10-goal night from Zetterberg in a big 11-10 Ottawa win. The Pan Boxers need some help!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm Schnookie

Sherry, you’re a superstar! Nicely done handling the Senators side of the Game Of The Century!
on January 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm Mags

My existence is something I’m very proud of! :D

Good, you should be :D

Frisby, man up! Stick it to the (wo)man! You’re a renegade blogger! Storm Bloggers HQ, kick the fucking doors in, get in there and say “Look, I don’t agree and here’s why”. An alternative revolution.

No? Too Izzard? Ok.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm Mags

Good job Sherry! Like the answers (but I agree your prediction could have been more outlandish. Just for fun, you know :P)
on January 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm Sherry

I would have preferred if you’d predicted a 10-goal night from Zetterberg in a big 11-10 Ottawa win. The Pan Boxers need some help!

Damn! That answer would have been so much better(unfortunately, I couldn’t find my 12-sided die. Yes, I have a 12-sided die. More than one, actually). I’m consulting you next time I need witty answers :P

No? Too Izzard? Ok.

I wonder if I should be concerned that I totally got what you were talking about.
on January 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm Mags

Yes, I have a 12-sided die. More than one, actually

Well more power to you!

I wonder if I should be concerned that I totally got what you were talking about.

Well, I don’t think so. Not until you can recite the Death Star Canteen scene.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm Mags

Ok, I’m so sorry for killing IPB. I’m going to bed. Y’all can come back now!
on January 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm Sherry

Aw, Mags…good night! (I’d be more active but I’m actually at work right now)
on January 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm Meg

I would have preferred if you’d predicted a 10-goal night from Zetterberg in a big 11-10 Ottawa win. The Pan Boxers need some help!

The Chinchillas would like that as well. All assists should be from Datsyuk, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, and Kronwall.

And Mags, I’m your radio buddy tonight (stupid cable package) although I imagine we’ll be listening to different feeds.
on January 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm Schnookie

If you’re still around, ‘night Mags! (Sorry, we wandered off to have lunch…)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:08 pm Caitlin

Ugh, I just returned from the hell collectively known as “the doctor’s office”.

Oh your jealousy is SO unbecoming.

Jealousy? Quoi? Are we talking about Ovechkin here? Because I think everyone here would agree that there’s little to be jealous over. Even though Alex Ovechkin is making assloads of money, at the end of the day, he still looks like Lurch from the Addams Family.

Just saying.

Also, well played, Sherry! I’m about to head on over to read your thing with Wyshynski!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm Sherry

Even though Alex Ovechkin is making assloads of money, at the end of the day, he still looks like Lurch from the Addams Family.

Now he can afford to have somebody really expensive to give him a Lurch haircut! (only the best type of egg beaters for Ovie from now on)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm Caitlin

Now he can afford to have somebody really expensive to give him a Lurch haircut! (only the best type of egg beaters for Ovie from now on)

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Word! I mean, I love Ovie, but I keep expecting him to show up with Thing and Cousin It, you know.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm Schnookie

Caitlin, once again, your jealousy is showing through. And is so unbecoming. Have you learned nothing from a person who trolls a Devils blog under the name “Brodeur Is A Baby” about how unattractive envy is?
on January 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm Caitlin

Caitlin, once again, your jealousy is showing through. And is so unbecoming. Have you learned nothing from a person who trolls a Devils blog under the name “Brodeur Is A Baby” about how unattractive envy is?

Ah, Schnookie….I think it’s your jealousy showing through. (I mean, come on, first in line my ass.)

On the other hand, someone clearly can comprehend what they read, but not get it and understand it, which is the problem “Brodeur Is A Baby” is experiencing.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm Schnookie

Well, in Brodeur Is A Baby’s defense, we did have 300-some comments when he/she/it came by, and they were not from 300 different people. And they were also about “nothing” just like he/she/it said — we talked about Penzey’s spices, we talked about the merits of coconut and squash, we talked about Katamari, we talked about Matt’s headboard construction process and we talked at length about Alex Ovechkin and the ramifications of the contract he just signed. i.e., “nothing”. We probably shouldn’t have jumped all over BIAB like that.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm Amy

Another happy loser commenter reporting for duty.

And they were also about “nothing” just like he/she/it said — we talked about Penzey’s spices, we talked about the merits of coconut and squash, we talked about Katamari, we talked about Matt’s headboard construction process and we talked at length about Alex Ovechkin and the ramifications of the contract he just signed. i.e., “nothing”.

So is IPB the Seinfeld of the blogosphere?

There’s a really great article in SI this week about Marty, Lundqvist and Pretty Ricky. Marty’s thought’s on Lundqvist are kind of amusing.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm Pookie

Another happy loser commenter reporting for duty.

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I haven’t seen SI yet (I keep forgetting to look for it at the library; by now the cover’s probably been torn out and the insides stolen). What did Marty say about Hank?
on January 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm Schnookie

Another happy loser commenter reporting for duty.

Good to see you! Just remember to keep the commentary meaningless, okay?

Doc and Chico have been talking up the SI article, but I haven’t seen it yet. What does Marty say about Hank?
on January 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm Caitlin

We probably shouldn’t have jumped all over BIAB like that.

I just don’t like seeing you ladies have crap thrown your way, really. :D
on January 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm NotCapsChick

…Brodeur IS a baby.

Kolzig rules all. Jealousy is very unbecoming. Ovie is sexy.

*glances around warily*

*runs for the door*
on January 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm Caitlin

Ovie is sexy.

Ovie’s funniness overcomes his Lurchness, CapsChick, so I’ll kind of agree with you on that.

And I still like him!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm Schnookie

Oh, and in a funny anecdote about Marty and Hank, the Devils beat the Rangers in a shootout at some point two seasons ago, and it was a huge deal because we needed the points, and Hank was, like, unbeatable in shootouts. And when it ended, Marty celebrated much more emphatically than he normally does. So when the FSN guys asked him afterwards about how happy he was about beating Hank in the shootout, Marty totally cut Hank down in that assy, passhole-aggresshole way of his by smugging that he knew how seriously Hank took the shootout, sort of suggesting that Hank was nothing but a circus-trick specialist. It was hilarious.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm Pookie

…Brodeur IS a baby.

Kolzig rules all. Jealousy is very unbecoming. Ovie is sexy.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Now, if only CapsChick were around to back NotCapsChick up….

;)

(Seriously, though, how funny was that comment from BrodeurIsABaby?)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm Schnookie

I just don’t like seeing you ladies have crap thrown your way, really. :D

Oh, Caitlin, that’s so sweet! But I was totally being sarcastic about that troll. I mean, the comment thread actually did have a pretty meaty discussion of Ovie in it. It was hardly a great example of the kind of rambling, hockey-free comment threads we specialize in here at IPB! :D

NotCapsChick, you suck! You’re the jealous one! *Hits the alarm so the doors all slam shut and the dogs with the bees in their mouths are summoned* Just try to escape now!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm CapsChick

*gasp* Caitlin, that wasn’t me, I swear. Who is this NotCapsChick? :P

(Shhhhh, damn it!)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm Amy

Basically, Marty said that Hank’s weird (that’s a direct quote), and he doesn’t like Hank’s style of play. The writer also mentions that at last year’s awards ceremony, the two of them were in the same room and never once looked at each other.

Contrast that with Marty’s view on Pretty Ricky: he has no problems with the kid and thinks he’s a good goalie (if a bit tempermental).

And since I wasn’t here for last night’s fun, I have no problems with Ovie, just with the contract. Thirteen years is either going to make Ted L. look like a genius or an idiot.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm CapsChick

Ovie is oddly sexy, guys – there is something weirdly attractive about him, I can’t explain it. Even though I know he’s ugly I am drawn to him.

Maybe it’s just the reflected glow of the rest of my team being so damn hot.

…or I may need therapy.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm CapsChick

Pookie, that comment was pretty entertaining – I kind of wish people wouldn’t do that. It happens all the time, people will be having a grown-up (such as it is) discussion and some rogue fan comes in and makes us all look bad. I was losing but I was doing it with style and class!

Hell, I didn’t even break out the picture of Ovie’s bare tushie to get you all to love him!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm Sherry

Contrast that with Marty’s view on Pretty Ricky: he has no problems with the kid and thinks he’s a good goalie (if a bit tempermental).

Brodeur’s a baby that doesn’t like Swedes!

…or I may need therapy.

Apparently we all do since we incestuously comment over 300 times about nothing :P
on January 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm Caitlin

Oh, Caitlin, that’s so sweet! But I was totally being sarcastic about that troll. I mean, the comment thread actually did have a pretty meaty discussion of Ovie in it. It was hardly a great example of the kind of rambling, hockey-free comment threads we specialize in here at IPB! :D

This is why I don’t need to post when I’ve taken Vicodin, dammit!!

I feel andrew’s “cook” pain, I really do.

Ovie is oddly sexy, guys – there is something weirdly attractive about him, I can’t explain it. Even though I know he’s ugly I am drawn to him.

Maybe it’s just the reflected glow of the rest of my team being so damn hot.

…or I may need therapy.

Oh, honey, then I’ll be in therapy with you! I know Ovechkin looks like Lurch but I think he’s totally adorkably cute. And I’m usually the girl that all my friends go, “You think that guy is CUTE?”

Exhibit A: Sergei Zubov
Exhibit B: Howie Long
Exhibit C: Brett Hull

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m about to have stuff thrown at me, I know.

I seriously want to meet Ovechkin one time, that’s all. He’s the only professional sports star I WANT to meet, just so I can have five minutes of his time to first tell him, “It’s okay, Alex, you can be assist” and secondly, to see if he’s really that goofy, just to solidfy all that crazy Russian exchange student love I have for him.

Ovechkin could kick a puppy dog off a bridge while making a kid with cancer cry and I’d still like him. Probably.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:52 pm Schnookie

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Amy, that’s awesome! I love when Marty lets his ego show (in ways other than demanding to play all 82 games in a season). I have always loved the fact that he is so quick to praise Pretty Ricky because Ricky’s an acolyte of his. And he’s nowhere near as good, so Marty doesn’t feel threatened by him. Basically, he’s more than happy to say great things about Pretty Ricky because Pretty Ricky was always a Marty suck-up. Meanwhile Hank’s there, doing his own thing, threatening Marty as the dominant goalie in the greater NY area, and Marty’s all like, “He sucks.” Hee!

CC, the thing about hockey players is that their sex appeal is greatly improved by being good at hockey. Plenty of very handsome guys don’t seem hott to us because they’re shitty players, and plenty of not-quite-great-looking guys seem smokin’ hott because they’re awesome. It’s perfectly normal! :D
on January 12, 2008 at 3:52 pm Pookie

No, no, CapsChick, Ovie is definitely sexy. I’ll give you that. Just not if you think too hard about him! :)

Amy, that’s so fantastic about Marty and Hank ignoring each other like a bunch of drama queens.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm Sherry

that’s so fantastic about Marty and Hank ignoring each other like a bunch of drama queens.

Oh, you know Hank totally watches Gossip Girl to try to find ways to bring Marty down.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm Pookie

some rogue fan comes in and makes us all look bad.

I don’t think a single person here would hold that crap against all Caps fans, and especially not you!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm Schnookie

I was losing but I was doing it with style and class!

That’s you, CC — classy all the way! :D (And I wouldn’t say you were losing. I’d say that we all came in with our opinions already set, no one was going to sway anyone anyway, and you were just outnumbered. That’s all. There were no winners or losers.)
on January 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm Pookie

Oh, you know Hank totally watches Gossip Girl to try to find ways to bring Marty down.

I wonder if Margee takes requests for Fly on the Wall segments…
on January 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm Amy

Exhibit B: Howie Long / Exhibit C: Brett Hull

I can see Howie Long, but head is meeting desk on Brett Hull.

Apparently we all do since we incestuously comment over 300 times about nothing

Lately, 300 posts has been a quiet day.
on January 12, 2008 at 3:57 pm Pookie

Lately, 300 posts has been a quiet day.

300 is a joke, 1,000? Not a joke! Hee hee!
on January 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm Schnookie

Lately, 300 posts has been a quiet day.

I know! I think that was the part that insulted me most about that comment. I was like, “I’ll have you know it’s normally more like 800 incestuous comments about nothing!”
on January 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm CapsChick

Ooh…guys…so, um, I guess our coach has this thing where if you’re last to score in the shooting drill you get “punished”. Semin was the lucky one today at practice – so look what they made him do:

Semin’s so pretty
on January 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm Amy

Oh, you know Hank totally watches Gossip Girl to try to find ways to bring Marty down.

Hee. I knew him signing his autographs with “you know you love me, XOXO” meant he was a Gossip Girl fan.
on January 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm CapsChick

…and Ovie’s reaction. I love my coach. Totally off topic, sorry, but I do love a good non sequitur comment :P
on January 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm Schnookie

I knew him signing his autographs with “you know you love me, XOXO” meant he was a Gossip Girl fan.

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on January 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm Pookie

Hey, change that pink to leopard print, and that’s kind of what Staffy’s been wearing after his concussion!
on January 12, 2008 at 4:26 pm Amanda

I hate OV as much as I hate Brett Hull, the Leafs, anything and everything from Philly, the Dallas Cowboys and the Manchester United combined!

Hey Matt – I’m about 16 hours late on this, but YEAH, I totally agree!
on January 12, 2008 at 4:32 pm Schnookie

Hm. This Stars-Kings game is a bit crazy, no? (Jim Fox, whom I adore for his chipperness, just called, as the Kings tied things up after going down 2-0 early, “It’s as if the first part of this game didn’t matter!”)
on January 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm Caitlin

head is meeting desk on Brett Hull.

Sorry, Amy!

This Stars-Kings game is a bit crazy, no? (Jim Fox, whom I adore for his chipperness, just called, as the Kings tied things up after going down 2-0 early, “It’s as if the first part of this game didn’t matter!”)

The Stars will find any way to disappoint me. Sorry you guys have to watch the Stars without the magic of Sergei Zubov. And possibly, for Razor.

Ugh, sigh. I hate playing the Kings. But it was kind of worth it so far to see Marc Crawford having spasms of rage on the Kings’ bench.
on January 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm alix

I totally agree with Ovie being sexy, but I have NO idea why. I’m guessing he has a nice body, but other than that I’m not sure why I would want to drink wodka with him while we made out and he spoke half russian/half english to me.

And ha! I’ve given up trying not to sound like a puckbunny :p
on January 12, 2008 at 5:09 pm Heather B.

How’s your ankle today?

Mags, I know you’re not here anymore, but it’s good today. I actually went out in the world and moved around! I’m exhausted!

Caitlin, while I have a personal vendetta against Hull, I don’t find the idea of him being attractive reprehensible. He’s not terrible looking. But total word on Howie Long but only in glasses. Non-glasses Howie bothers me.
on January 12, 2008 at 5:35 pm Caitlin

Caitlin, while I have a personal vendetta against Hull, I don’t find the idea of him being attractive reprehensible. He’s not terrible looking. But total word on Howie Long but only in glasses. Non-glasses Howie bothers me.

Thanks, Heather, on the Hull thing. I figured I’d be ducking things thrown by Sabres fans right and left. Hullie is just….well, he’s just him.

Glasses!Howie is so awesome! I remember watching him do football games when I was a kid, and my dad totally mocking me because I’d be all like, “Daaaaddy, Howie is cuuuuuute!”

My dad still gives me shit about thinking Long is attractive. It doesn’t help he keeps doing those damn Toyota commercials right and left.
on January 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm Caitlin

’m not sure why I would want to drink wodka with him while we made out and he spoke half russian/half english to me.

And ha! I’ve given up trying not to sound like a puckbunny :p

Oh, I don’t know that I’d want to make out with Ovie, but the wodka part sounds nice!
on January 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm Schnookie

Whew! I’m exhausted! We just took some inspiration from Matt and embarked on a construction project. Operation: Winerack is complete, and our pantry is no longer nearly as cluttered! Woo hoo!
on January 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm Pookie

ATTENTION! In the NHL is on NHL Network right now and the guide claims it’s going to have Staffy and Crunchy at the BPO!
on January 12, 2008 at 6:54 pm Matt

I hate OV as much as I hate Brett Hull, the Leafs, anything and everything from Philly, the Dallas Cowboys and the Manchester United combined!

Hey Matt – I’m about 16 hours late on this, but YEAH, I totally agree!

HIGH FIVES!!!

It’s nice when I fall asleep on the couch and nap for 14 hours. I guess the scotch WAS Nutrition last night.

Also, I understand Howie Long, I can even understand Brett Hull, but Ovechkin? The man looks like he was mauled by a half-motivated, angry bear. Can somebody explain the attraction to me?
on January 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm Schnookie

Can somebody explain the attraction to me?

Pheromones. I think that’s about it.