IPB’s Part-Time Trade Deadline Mania
February 26, 2008 by Schnookie
It’s finally upon us, this most manic of frenzied days, this wild free-for-all that is the NHL trade deadline. And like any reputable news source, we’re going to be here every step of the way, offering you, Gentle Reader, with all the fast-breaking news. Of course, because this is the interwebs, and breaking news becomes universally known within ten seconds, the fact that we have, at best, third-, fourth- and fifth-hand sources is totally not important. And the fact that we are not full-time Tradeologists is also not important. The point is that we are on the case, reporting everything as it happens, rounding up to the nearest half hour after it is either brought to us in comments or emails by friends who are keeping closer tabs on everything than we are, or after it posts on Kukla’s Korner, because we totally can’t get TSN.ca to load at work. Oh yeah, and did we mention we’re at work? Because we might get busy and not be able to update every half hour. Don’t miss it! The best Part-Time Trade Deadline Mania on the interwebs!
10:09 a.m. As far as we can tell, nothing is happening yet. Unless you consider Mike Comrie re-signing with the Islanders “something”. Which we don’t.
10:39 Of course the first actual news we spot on Kukla is that the Devils have acquired Bryce Salvador. We were kind of ho-hum about this at first, because, well… Bryce Salvador? But then we looked him up in wikipedia, to solidify our opinion that he’s just what the Devils need (another so-so NHL-caliber defenseman, to go with our other eight), and according to his entry there, which is GOD’S HONEST TRUTH (the wiki has spoken, people!), the trade was for Cam Janssen. If this is true — which it HAS to be — WOOOOOOOO!!!!! Someone gave up a warm body for Cam Janssen? We figured hoping for a ten-pound catfish was unreasonable. Well color us surprised. And, um, color us curious about what the Devils are going to do with nine NHL-caliber defensemen.
11:09 According to very reputable sources, the Sabres have been in a team meeting this morning. It’s probably just Darcy Regier standing in front of his players to tell them there is no news yet to report.
Speaking of which, there is no news to report at this moment. Which is good. Pookie’s teaching a class about Google Calendar and Schnookie is ordering all manner of lab supplies. We’re too busy for trades right now!
11:48 Wow! It’s been an exciting 40 minutes! The top story is, of course, that the Panthers got the big prize of the deadline, Toronto’s Wade Belak, for the low, low price of a fifth-round draft pick. We don’t know about you, but we think the playoff picture in the East has been rocked by this trade.
Meanwhile, Brian Campbell’s season-destroying contract negotiations are finally at an end, and his reign of terror in Buffalo has concluded along with it. He’s off to San Jose in exchange for Steve Bernier and a first-round pick. As with Janssen, that’s way more than the ten-pound catfish we would have given up for him. Sorry about that, Sharks fans.
Oh, and there are rumblings about this Richards-to-Dallas thing actually happening, but nothing’s set in stone. We can’t be bothered with rumor and innuendo. We’re dealing only in cold, hard facts here, people. Please. We’re a reputable news source.
12:09 Updating half-hourly is so the way to go with trade tracking, because it pretty much guarantees that a big move will be made as soon as you post your latest update. Take, for example, the Dallas/Tampa trade, which upgraded from “innuendo” to “truth” as soon as we scoffed at it. So yeah. Brad Richards and our favorite “really awful goaltender the Devils have recently faced in the playoffs”, Johan Holmqvist, are now Stars, in exchange for Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen and Jeff Halpern. While we know all the names involved in this trade, we’d be lying if we said we had informed opinions about any of these guys. Our guts, though, say that we don’t think Richards is a pile of puke, despite the way his contract makes it almost impossible to think clearly about him as a player, and we have never been very impressed by Halpern’s Princeton-y past. So, advantage: Stars. Except for the Holmqvist part. He’s terrible.
In other news, the Canadiens made a charitable donation of Christobal Huet to the Caps. As a receipt for tax purposes, the Caps gave them a second-round pick. What the hell, Montreal? They’re in your conference. Why would you do that?
DEVILS-CENTRIC UPDATE:
12:21 We would be remiss if we didn’t mention how thrilled we are for how the Richards deal from a purely Devils perspective. On paper it doesn’t look much like the Tampa-Dallas deal effects NJ much, but here at IPB we dig deeper. Other people see Brad Richards going to Dallas. We see Vinny’s BFF going to the Devils of the West. This is surely just a move setting the table for the centerpiece of Trade Deadline Day ‘08 — Vinny himself going to the Devils of the East (aka, well, the Devils!).
12:39 Things are still quiet on the Vinny-to-NJ front, but the rest of the NHL world has been sent reeling by the news that the Blackhawks and Hurricanes swapped Tuomo Ruutu and Andrew Ladd, and the Avalanche acquired Ruslan Salei from the Panthers for Karlis Skrastins and a third-rounder. We’re not sure how we can go on living with a league landscape that has been so inexorably altered.
1:09 Boomer has been a life-long Gunsmoke fan, and our dad was not. We remember there was a time during our pre-teen years when there was a Gunsmoke reunion special that Boomer was super-excited about, so the whole family gathered in front of the TV to watch it with her. And we had a marvelous time listening, for the entire show, to our father’s howls of laughter every time the shot changed to show another geriatric original castmember. It never got tired for him to laugh at a 70-something James Arness being foisted up into the saddle of some poor, unsuspecting buckskin, and don’t even get us started on how incapacitated with mirth he was when Miss Kitty was rolled out, wearing her full saloon-girl makeup and brassy red wig. On that same note, the Avs have picked up Adam Foote from the Blue Jackets. Pierre McGuire says right now that it’s for a first-round pick, but we try not to ever believe a word Pierre tells us.
In other news, Ottawa’s shocked us by giving up a sixth-round pick for Marty Lapointe, who we didn’t realize was still in the NHL.
1:39 The two steps forward the Washington Capitals took acquiring Huet look a little ridiculous following the 8,000 steps back they took acquiring the rights to Fedorov’s embalmed body. Wait, we’re getting some breaking news here… Fedorov is still alive? Really? Her? Also, the Islanders got “Rob Davison” for a 7th round pick from San Jose. OK, now they’re just making up names and trades to distract us from the big Vinny-to-NJ-for-Andy-Greene deal. Wait, what’s this? The Caps aren’t done! They sent Matt Pettinger to Vancouver for Matt Cooke. Because the Eastern Conference totally needed another Sean Avery. Thank you ever so much, Washington.
2:09 It’s official! The trade we’ve all been looking forward to, Vinny Lecavalier to the Devils for Rod Pelley, has gone down!
Psych! Made you look!
Okay, there actually is no news to report other than that Pookie has traded lunchtime for naptime.
2:39 We’d love to say there’s big, official news now involving Hossa, the Penguins, and maybe some large catfish, but it’s all still rumors and innuendo. And you know how we feel about that.
3:11 Finally, some craziness abounds! First up we’ve got the Pens acting on the current trend of trading for reanimated corpses (see: Fedorov, Sergei and Foote, Adam), and giving up a second- and a fith-round pick for Hal Gill. We’re sure Leafs fans are sorry to see him go.
In further “they’re just making these names up” trade news, the Rangers gave a fourth-round pick to the Blues for the fictional Christian Backman. Now, we don’t pretend to know much about the Western Conference, but we’ve never heard of that guy. We think he’s just J.D. in a fake mustache.
The biggest splash of the last half hour was the news that Pittsburgh acquired Marian Hossa (and Pascal Dupuis) for the bargain-basement price of Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen and Angelo Esposito, as well as a first-round draft pick. What a reasonable price to pay for the rental of such a proven playoff performer. Is this Atlanta’s just rewards for the ridonkulous rental trades they made last year? And what is up with Pittsburgh management? Last year Sid said he didn’t want an enforcer so they went out and got Laraque, and this year they’re shipping out Sid’s BFF? Are they trying to send a message? Is this their way of publicly announcing this is Conklin’s team now?
3:39 Everyone seems to have scrambled to squeeze their trades in under the deadline, so there’s all kinds of action to update now. Being a part-time amateur trade tracker is hard work!
First up, the rage for reanimated corpses continues unabated, and the Wild spend a sixth-round pick for one of their own, only they go for the extra-special malicious reanimated corpse in the form of Chris Simon. Oohh… thuggish!
The Red Wings decided to attempt to stop the bleeding by picking up the Kings’ Brad Stuart, about whom we have no opinion whatsoever. We know we’ve been hearing his name for years, and something makes us want to think he’s supposed to be good, but since the Wings only gave up a second-round and a fourth-round pick for him, how good can he be?
The Panthers and Leafs continued to wring shrugs from the rest of the observing hockey world by shuffling Chad Kilger for a third-round pick. A third-round pick in the ten-pound-catfish draft, right?
The Ducks filled their own glaring need for some defensive shoring-up by giving the Islanders a third-round pick for Marc-Andre Bergeron. We’ve watched the Devils play against the Bergeroned Islanders six times this year, and wouldn’t be able to tell you the first thing about him. That’s why we’re considered “experts”.
In the most emotionally stirring news of the day (besides the “someone gave us a warm body for Cam Janssen” bit), the Al Montoya Era is officially over in New York. Considering we wrote about Montoya during the lockout that he resided in a storage closet in the bowels of MSG with other highly-touted, unsuccessful Rangers prospects such as Daniel Goneau and Christian Dube, you can imagine how sorry we are to see him move on. Goneau and Dube are going to miss him. Marcel Hossa will be shipping out to Phoenix with Montoya in return for Fredrik Sjostrom, David Leneveu and Josh Gratton.
4:11 After the bombshell that is the Montoya trade, things have gotten a lot quieter, although another troubling trend (besides how in vogue reanimated corpses have become) has sprung up. First we’ve got the Kings trading JS Aubin to the Ducks for a seventh-rounder, and then we’ve got the Thrashers trading Alexandre Giroux to the Caps for International Man Of Mystery Joe Motzko. Do these teams not realize that they are in each other’s divisions? When did teams who are duking it out for first in their division like the Caps and Thrashers are start trading with each other? We think Trade Deadline ‘08 will go down in history as the day GMs officially finally all lost their marbles.
In other news, Tampa traded Jan Hlavac’s reanimated corpse to Nashville for a seventh-round pick.
UPDATED
4:39 Well, it looks like the dust has settled, and everyone’s done. At least, Lou’s officially done, which means we don’t care anymore. When we woke up this morning, the first thing we thought was, “We really hope today ends with nine NHL-capable defensemen on the Devils active roster.” And our prayers were answered. As for all that “We really, really, really want Lou to trade for Lecavalier” talk, he probably secretly really sucks anyway. We’re better off with Bryce Salvador.
Um, TSN is reporting that the Thrashers told Hossa not to show up at practice today.
That’s all I got.
Apparently WBEN is reporting that the Sabres have a mandatory meeting at 10:45. I don’t know how that’s relevant to anything.
I don’t know how that’s relevant to anything.
Meg, don’t you know? It’s relevant because the Sabres are about to be Soupless, and they’ve gotta let Crunchy down easily, don’t you know. :D
Just heard a Devil’s transaction, welcome to New Jersey, Bryce Salvador!
Just heard a Devil’s transaction, welcome to New Jersey, Bryce Salvador!
Don’t you mean….”Welcome to the fabulous Garden State, Vinny Lecavalier?”
:D Wait, who the hell is Bryce Salvador?
Congratulations on getting rid of Janssen, Devils fans!
I’m glad to be rid of Cam. I’ve been nervous of who would be scratched for him to have ice-time.
Apparently WBEN is reporting that the Sabres have a mandatory meeting at 10:45. I don’t know how that’s relevant to anything.
Considering practice is usually at 10-ish, it could either be an announcement of a trade meeting, or a “remove heads from sphincters, then play hockey” meeting.
I AM SO EXCITED THAT WE GOT RID OF JANSSEN THAT I HAVE TO EXPRESS MYSELF IN BOLD ALL CAPS!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Of course, we have a lot of d-men now. Did Tampa really want a lot of cheap, interchangeable blueliners for Vinny? Is that what this is all about?
They called Janssen on TradeCentre, and his interview is kind of adorable.
SCHNOOKIE I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOU!
Now, teams, let’s talk about a certain bald-headed Swedish defenseman that I feel would be a great asset for your team. He’s available for the bargain price of only $4.25 million per year, but really, there’s no putting a price tag on GREAT defense! :D
I can not believe we got a warm body for Cam! I wish him well, as I never had as much Cam-hate as most of IPB.
Salvador, Brookbank and a bag o’ pucks for Campbell.
Considering practice is usually at 10-ish, it could either be an announcement of a trade meeting, or a “remove heads from sphincters, then play hockey” meeting.
I’m kind of hoping it’s both really. That’d work, right?
I wish him well, as I never had as much Cam-hate as most of IPB.
I wish him well, too. I think he’s a nice guy and a perfectly cromulent fourth-line energy guy. I just think he’s not a smart enough hockey player for the Devils, and I think his hit on Kaberle derailed our whole season last year. Was the team looking for a reason to get derailed? Heck yeah! But still. He gave them one. But anyway, he’s not a guy I’m going to harbor ill will against now that he’s gone.
(See how gracious I can be when I try?)
And, um, color us curious about what the Devils are going to do with nine NHL-caliber defensemen.
Trade one. I’ll bet you anything.
Please don’t let Tampa take Juicy. Cat might kill me, but I can deal with giving up Smitty. Giving up Juicy Fruit makes me die a little inside.
Please don’t let Tampa take Juicy. Cat might kill me, but I can deal with giving up Smitty.
I can’t. I’m not ready yet. I know he won’t be here forever, but I’m not ready at this exact moment in time. I’m trying to mentally prepare for it.
I think trading away Smitty would be spectacularly daft…
My problem with trading away Smitty is…Well, what happens if Marty gets hurt (god forbid, obviously)? Stephan’s good, but is he THAT good?
Did these dudes on TradeCentre just say that if Soupy goes to San Jose, it makes them better than Detroit? I was only half listening, but I swear that’s what I heard.
CLEARLY that would make SJ better even if they do give us Joe in exchange. I don’t know why you sound so surprised Cat.
Did these dudes on TradeCentre just say that if Soupy goes to San Jose, it makes them better than Detroit? I was only half listening, but I swear that’s what I heard.
Huh?
Soupy’s been spotted at HSBC Arena this morning, so he’s either cleaning out his locker or signing a deal.
Before I left, I saw them talking about how they all agreed that Anaheim is going to repeat this year.
My sphincter vomited flaming eyeballs.
My sphincter vomited flaming eyeballs.
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Glad I didn’t have a mimosa (I forgot to buy champagne yesterday), or else I would have seriously spit it all over my computer.
My sphincter vomited flaming eyeballs.
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My sphincter vomited flaming eyeballs.
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Applesauce everywhere. Thanks Patty :P
I saw them talking about how they all agreed that Anaheim is going to repeat this year.
Great news. That would mean that BabyCrunchy could go up 2-0 over his brother in the Crunchy Family Stanley Cup standings. That would go over like the aforementioned flaming eyeball vomiting.
Soupy’s been spotted at HSBC Arena this morning, so he’s either cleaning out his locker or signing a deal.
Or just showing up to practice as normal. Unless they’re in the Pepsi Center today?
If Soupy’s there to announce a deal, Top Shelf is going dark in mourning.
Belak to the Panthers for a 5th round pick.
Do we care?
This deadline day is crazy boring. Panthers just gave a 5th round pick up for Wade Belak.
Crazy boring??? But the Devils got an actual, living, breathing human being in exchange for Cam Janssen! That’s SUPER EXCITING!
I’m going to be unbelievably pissed off if absolutely nothing interesting happens (although Brad Richards and Hossa are obviously making thing a little more interesting). I only slept for three hours last night, NHL! Make things more interesting, just don’t MESS ANYTHING UP!
Soupy’s been spotted at HSBC Arena this morning
NO! Please let it be so Lindy can tell the team, “This is what happens to you when you take your contract negotiations public and act like an asshole and have no team spirit! YOU GET TRADED!” And then he like, totally rips the Sabres patch off of Soupy’s letterman’s jacket or something ridonkulously dramatic like that.
:D
I’m weird.
I think trading away Smitty would be spectacularly daft…
I’m not a big fan of it, but the big thing some of the teams they’re chatting with need is a goaltender. I’ve kind of half prepared for Smitty to go, since Turco’s a monster. An untradeable monster, too, at the moment.
I have NOT been preparing for a Finnja to leave me though. Don’t trade any Finns! I don’t think a single forward or d-man could leave and I’d be okay with it!
But we’re re-signing Soupy! I know it! Waaaaaaaaaah!
But we’re re-signing Soupy! I know it! Waaaaaaaaaah!
There’s hope, Heather, there’s still hope that he could leave!
Ok, I’m going to go out again to buy a birthday present (why do I procrastinate until trade deadline day? I do not know) and when I come back, I fully expect something to have happened. See y’all in a while! (Caitlin, I have email on my phone now but no other internet, so if something goes down could you please shoot me a message? Thanks!)
“(See how gracious I can be when I try?)”
I will also admit that while I liked Cam’s energy, it was useless to have a guy who took two shots on goal… a year.
Soupy news! Parts aren’t in place according to TSN, but sure enough, it’s San Jose.
Someone on HFBoards just said Campbell moved per TSN, but I don’t see it on the web yet.
Campbell to Sharks
Caitlin, I have email on my phone now but no other internet, so if something goes down could you please shoot me a message? Thanks
I SURE CAN!
WGR says it’s believed to involve Steve Bernier
And Joe Thornton, right? :-D
I’ve heard Bernier and Carle.
Hee! Bernier leads the Sharks in hits and can score a bit so I think something centered around him is good. I want Andrew to get in and tell us more. :)
Campbell to Sharks for some guys or something.
Campbell to Sharks for some guys or something.
Oh please let it be the 10-pound catfish, bag of pucks or a Zamboni battery. :)
I just got out of my class and alls I’s got to say is:
WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! NO MORE CAM JANSSEN!! WOOOOOOO!!!! HIP HIP HUZZAH! HIP HIP HUZZAH! HIP HIP HUZZAH!!!
But, yeah, I also wish him well. For some other team! WOO-HOO!!
Oh please let it be the 10-pound catfish, bag of pucks or a Zamboni battery. :)
Soupy’s not even worth a moon particle to be named later?
Does anyone else feel relief that the Soupy saga is now over? Or should we be waiting for the other shoe to drop?
I’m relieved but I won’t be happy until I know more, Amy.
Bernier and a first round pick for Soupy.
Mirtle is saying Bernier and a first round pick.
I can’t wait to score on the Sharks! :D
Bernier! You guys, now I can have a favorite Sabre, a position that’s been open since the unfortunate loss of Ty Conklin!
Mirtle’s report was per TSN.
Amy, I am relieved though I’m a little disappointed Carle wasn’t included. I am a little curious to see if this was done so early because it was definitely the best offer or if because Darcy is working on other things too. For all my complaining, I really did expect this to go to the last minute.
Larry Kelly just referred to Regier as an “absolute gentleman” during negotiations. Wonder how Bucky’ll spin that one.
I’m totally happy with Bernier and a 1st. I really, really wouldn’t have expected the Sharks to give up two current players when they want to contend.
Hey guys,
Looks like I get to keep Soupy. For Bernier and a first, right?
Per the Sabres:
Bernier and a first round pick for Campbell and a 7th round pick. Not bad!
OH GOD APPARENTLY THE LIGHTNING AND STARS HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT PENDING RICHARDS’ APPROVAL I HATE EVERYTHING.
I’m so sorry, andrew. That was the first thing I said when Schnookie IMed me that Soupy went to SJ. I’m so, so sorry.
Oh, god. This means I have to watch Soupy play against my team on a regular basis. Crap.
Oh well, at least it’ll be even MORE fun to score against San Jose now! Maybe I’ll endure the Roenacking on my birthday to watch the Sharks game!
Not bad!
You got rid of Soupy. Anything would have been “not bad”! :)
RICHARDS AGREED I HATE EVERYTHING.
My neighbors must hate me, because I seriously just let out a scream like I was being murdered.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CRAP, I HATE MIKE BRAD RICHARDS WHATEVER HIS NAME IS
:facedesk:
I need a cigarette.
What do you think of Bernier for the Sabres, Andrew? Good fit?
RICHARDS TO DALLAS FOR SMITH, HALPERN, AND JOKINEN.
I’M GOING TO GO CRY NOW.
NONONONON CAT TELL ME, what was the agreement?
I HATE YOU, BRETT HULL! HATE! DEAD TO ME!
I’m a little bummed Soupy went to the Sharks. I definitely can’t cheer for them to win it all now. (Forgive me, Joe!)
Sorry Stars fans! I’m so sorry you’re not happy with the trade!
Per Mirtle: Brad Richards has waived his no-trade clause and been traded with Johan Holmqvist to the Dallas Stars for goaltender Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen and Jeff Halpern.
So it could be a done deal?
I am so, so sorry, Stars fans. Your GMs are idiots because Brad Richards is just not that good.
“I’m so sorry, andrew. That was the first thing I said when Schnookie IMed me that Soupy went to SJ. I’m so, so sorry.”
Well, it’s not that big a deal I suppose. Here’s how I’m looking at it: The Sharks have a bunch of really good defensive defensemen (Rivet, McLaren, Vlasic, Murray) and two not very good offensive defensmen (Carle, Ehrhoff). This means that Soupy will be paired with someone like Vlasic who will let him run wild out there, while taking care of any mistakes that occur.
Could be a hell of a lot worse! We could be selling the farm for Richards!!! MWUHAHAHAHA
NO! Not….Juicy….Stars….I begged you not to do this to me.
I’m going to go sit in the parking garage at my office and cry now. As soon as I get this motion filed.
i’m in class, in a usually screens-down environment. except my prof is a hockey nut, so it’s all good.
WHOAAA :000 Campbell’s gone…. Buffalo won the tradeee :D (in my opinion).
…and we traded BELAK? of all players we traded BELAK? wtf that’s such a trade for the sake of trading. I’m glad we got a fifth rounder for him though :0
This means that Soupy will be paired with someone like Vlasic who will let him run wild out there, while taking care of any mistakes that occur.
That might make him a very good fit there, I think.
Wow….seriously, Stars? I find myself actually LESS worried about you catching us after that trade.
(I also find myself, however, reminded of how scary trade deadline day is. I woke up calm. Now? Heck no. Crap. Don’t make me cry, Ken Holland.)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Nah-nah-nah-nah! Nah-nah-nah-nah! Hey! Hey! Hey!
GOODBYE!!!!
I love that we (Devs) unload Janssen and we (Sabres) unload Soupy for something useful. I’m very happy with Bernier and a 1st round. We do well in the draft, and we didn’t have to give him a huge contract either!
Your GMs are idiots because Brad Richards is just not that good.
Yeah, but he’s not that bad either, right? Put him in fresh surroundings, without the craziness of Torts and wonky ownership… He might respond well. Yes? No?
Vinny I’m so sad about Belak! I mean, really, it’s not like it was a bad decision on Toronto’s part, but aww, I liked him! (I’m going to see the Panthers in DC in April and now I’m more excited, though :P Before all they had going for them was Radek Dvorak who I still unconditionally love and still don’t know why.)
“What do you think of Bernier for the Sabres, Andrew? Good fit?”
He fills a spot that the Sabres definitely need. That is a big strong forward with soft hands. He can hit, he can occasionally fight, and he can score when he’s motivated. The only thing I don’t like is that the Sabres took a pretty good gamble on him. Even with all of his strengths, he’s never tapped his potential. He reminds me of Taylor Pyatt, in that he can be a monster out there, or he can be invisible…just depends on the night.
I’m hoping he just needed a change of scenery (like Pyatt), and now he can pull everything together.
Could be a hell of a lot worse! We could be selling the farm for Richards!!! MWUHAHAHAHA
You’re so mean to us, andrew! I wish I had the power to ban you. :(
Seriously. People must think I’m insane, because no one else in my office knows or cares what day it is.
I should’ve called in sick. :sob: Thank you for the sympathy, fellow friends.
This is on both our GMs heads. RICHARDS ISN’T THAT GOOD!
We do well in the draft
Not in the 1st round, we don’t! It’s a good, deep 1st round this year though.
Put him in fresh surroundings, without the craziness of Torts and wonky ownership… He might respond well. Yes? No?
I would say yes. He might benefit from not playing 30 minutes a night though.
Huet to Caps for a 2nd round pick. Caps win that in a walk.
*sob*
Holy crap, Montreal just traded Huet to Washington.
Huet to Caps for a 2nd round pick.
Man, but those Habs chew up and spit out their goalies, don’t they?
It’s a great first round this year, some stellar D :D
OH WOW BRAD RICHARDS AND HOLMQVIST?
I’m tempted to say Tampa won the trade =/
Uh, can Bernier play left wing, Andrew? Because I think we’re a wee bit unbalanced.
“That might make him a very good fit there, I think.”
I think so. He’ll probably do well. If he starts taking his shit seriously.
“Yeah, but he’s not that bad either, right? Put him in fresh surroundings, without the craziness of Torts and wonky ownership… He might respond well.”
Stars fans, I know it’s tough…but I’m being sincere here, Richards will help you guys out! Remember, he was a killer before the huge contract (won the Conn Smythe!). I think he’ll do well in Dallas, out from under Torts’ evil reign. Sorry you had to give up so much for him though.
He might respond well. Yes? No?
He’d better.
I hate the deal. I hate it.
At least we get a goalie back. But he’s not as good as Smith, obviously. I don’t want to lose Jeff Halpern or Jokinen. Halpern’s one of our best penalty killers!
All the crap about a scoring winger and we get a 20-goal CENTER. We don’t need centers! I hate hockey.
Could be worse, I guess.
Could be worse, I guess.
Couldn’t be much worse. I am so mad.
Could be worse, I guess.
Sure - the only worse scenario I can think of for myself is if they traded Matt Niskanen. I’d be jumping off the hi-5 if that happened.
Huet to Caps for a 2nd round pick. Caps win that in a walk.
This doesn’t bode well for Kolzig, does it?
“Huet to Caps for a 2nd round pick. Caps win that in a walk.”
Jebus, seriously! I think that automatically makes the Caps contenders now…they were already leading the Southleast. Now with competent goaltending!
“Uh, can Bernier play left wing, Andrew? Because I think we’re a wee bit unbalanced.”
Well, he’s a RW but he shoots right, so I think they could stuff on the LW and make it work.
Could be worse, I guess.
I’m so sorry that y’all lost guys you really like, but I agree with andrew — Brad Richards is decidedly not a pile of puke. I think there’s a good chance he’ll work out well for you. (Am I helping at all? Probably not. :D)
I think that automatically makes the Caps contenders now…they were already leading the Southleast.
Heh. No they weren’t. (Of course, that will probably all change now, but I can still enjoy that fact that this minute, their inability to beat the other crappy teams in their division has been biting them in the ass.)
I’m not saying anything about who they haven’t traded. The day is STILL YOUNG!
Hmph! I love how we needed a winger and got a center, like Patty said. Just what we have, you know, a LOT OF ALREADY.
I have no doubt that Richards could potentially improve. However, that cap hit, plus his prior performance makes me suspicious. And I do NOT like seeing Jokinen walk off to Tampa Bay. (Or Halpern. Or Smith.)
Sorry Stars fans! I know it sucks to lose favorites, even if there are logical reasons that might make it not a terrible trade. Booo to the Stars on your behalf!
Meg, I’m thinking Darcy trades a wing before the day is over. Maybe.
Here’s a Bernier video for any Sabres fans who aren’t also Sharks fans. It’s all goals, but fast forward to the 4:48 mark and watch his goal against St. Louis…it speaks volumes about what the kid is capable of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxi9iMpoTZU
“Heh. No they weren’t. ”
Wait, weren’t they still in the lead? Who overtook them? Man that’s a crappy division.
Hmph! I love how we needed a winger and got a center, like Patty said. Just what we have, you know, a LOT OF ALREADY.
He’s a good faceoff man, I think though. Also, I’d rather have extra centers any day over extra wingers. The Sabres definitely benefited a couple years ago from having lots of centers and just shifting one or two over.
Wait, weren’t they still in the lead? Who overtook them? Man that’s a crappy division.
Yeah, it really is. The Caps were only in the lead for, like, a day. Carolina, of the “we have so many injuries even our minor-leaguers are getting injured” roster, has not only overtaken them, but opened a bit of daylight. I think it’s a five-point lead now, after the 6-3 humiliation the Canes laid on them this weekend.
Wait, weren’t they still in the lead? Who overtook them? Man that’s a crappy division.
The Hurricanes did, didn’t they? It’s still close….and crappy.
“I think it’s a five-point lead now, after the 6-3 humiliation the Canes laid on them this weekend.”
Honestly, I try to block out the SE division from my brain. They’re just depressing.
I have no doubt that Richards could potentially improve. However, that cap hit, plus his prior performance makes me suspicious.
It’s the cap hit that makes me cringe the most. Plus, the fact that I think the Stars had some great chemistry going for them, and I honestly don’t think they NEEDED to make a trade.
Speaking of the Hurricanes, Andrew Ladd to Chicago for Tuomo Ruutu?
… the Stars had some great chemistry going for them, and I honestly don’t think they NEEDED to make a trade.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!
I honestly don’t think they NEEDED to make a trade.
That’s how I feel about the Wings, too, Cat. All this buzzing of Fedorov and Hossa and whatnot…but they have such chemistry as a team that it seems to me better to just rely on that than to jack everything up trying to throw a new guy in there and get enough chemistry back for him to be really worth it despite whatever numbers he might have.
plus his prior performance makes me suspicious
I’m always suspicious of former Conn Smythe winners! :)
Meg, I’m thinking Darcy trades a wing before the day is over. Maybe.
I have a real bad feeling Max is going to move today. I’m also not worried about this year’s first round, because it is exceptionally deep in talent. With Rochacha so depleted, I’m happy to get any picks we can.
Also, how the hell did the Habs let Huet go for a 2nd round pick? They either got shafted, or something big is coming up.
He’s a good faceoff man, I think though. Also, I’d rather have extra centers any day over extra wingers.
Hmm. Well, the main problem the Stars have had is trying to find where to put the extra centers. Jokinen and Modano got bobbled from center to wing on line after line for the first four months of the season. I’m just worried chemistry will go back to being wobbledy from this.
Also, Stu, Halpern, and a couple of our other guys are fairly good in the face-off circle.
It’s the cap hit that worries me the most, like Cat. That’s a pretty hefty load, and Patty had a good point that we’re still not done paying for Guerin. Plus, there’s Mattias Norstrom. NORSTROM! Agh.
I’m always suspicious of former Conn Smythe winners! :)
Well, this season and last season he hasn’t done as well as someone who’s worth $7.8 million a year should do, either. :)
You’d better be scoring 75 goals a season for $7.8 million.
Can I smack Matt Barnaby upside the head with the soldering iron, please? He said that next year the Wings are going to go after Crunchy like Lowe did with Vanek. Aside from the UFA / RFA differential, I don’t think Regier would be dumb enough to let Miller get away. Enroth is good, but he’s the future, not the present.
“I’m always suspicious of former Conn Smythe winners! :)”
For sure. Let’s not forget that Dallas is getting a guy who is a point-per-game producer in the playoffs, as well as a Conn Smythe winner. That does address a very important need for Dallas, as they’ve struggled over the past few playoff rounds.
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Hey, Nieuwendyk was a Conn Smythe winner, maybe we should get him.
I also don’t think he’s a bad player, but I think he’s way overpriced. Even if you just look at his contract.
He got a lot of points FOUR YEARS ago in the playoffs, and that is really good. But that was also a team he’d played with for a long time, not a month.
I’m worried about goaltending in the playoffs. Turco was unbelievable last season, but I think a lot of it was because he knew he might get pulled in favor of Smith if he wasn’t. He’s not saying to himself, whew! I can suck in the playoffs now, but I bet it makes him relax.
“I have a real bad feeling Max is going to move today.”
Me too. Although his trade value isn’t very high right now, so I’m a little worried about what we might get in return.
I’m also not worried about this year’s first round, because it is exceptionally deep in talent. With Rochacha so depleted, I’m happy to get any picks we can.
Agreed on both counts.
Let’s not forget that Dallas is getting a guy who is a point-per-game producer in the playoffs, as well as a Conn Smythe winner.
That’s what people said about Lindros. Then they’d mutter under their breath about how it was 8 years ago that he was even in the playoffs.
I’m worried about goaltending in the playoffs. Turco was unbelievable last season, but I think a lot of it was because he knew he might get pulled in favor of Smith if he wasn’t. He’s not saying to himself, whew! I can suck in the playoffs now, but I bet it makes him relax.
You bring up a really good point that I hadn’t thought of. Turco’s great, but perhaps part of the reason is because of the pressure Smith was putting on him to keep the #1 job. Without that pressure, what happens now?
*grumble* I hate hockey.
Well, the main problem the Stars have had is trying to find where to put the extra centers.
For a number of years the Devils only had natural centers playing wing and only wingers playing center. No joke. And look how that turned out!
I also don’t think he’s a bad player, but I think he’s way overpriced. Even if you just look at his contract.
I know, I know. I was just trying to bring some totally uncharacteristic positivity! I’m sorry! I’ll never do it again. @@@
Me too. Although his trade value isn’t very high right now, so I’m a little worried about what we might get in return.
Let’s go catfish! clap clap clapclapclap
Seriously, I could see Max or Kotalik moving today.
I’m a little worried about what we might get in return.
I don’t have any particular desire to see him traded or not, but I wouldn’t mind them picking up a 5th defenseman who is a slightly better skater than Pratt and has a mean streak.
He said that next year the Wings are going to go after Crunchy
Wait….what? Um, does he know who Jimmy Howard is? And has he watched Osgood play this year? Not that he’s been perfect or that I have faith in him to hold up next year but…Crunchy? Seriously? Is he going for the “Crunchy went to MSU so lets start rumors about him going back to Michigan” angle or something?
[...] Now that I’ve had time to think about it, I still hate the deal. Brad Richards and Johan Holmqvist for Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen, and Jeff Halpern. I admit to being glad that at least we got a goaltender back, but Holmqvist? Srsly? I hate you, Brett Hull (I know Les Jackson is also GM, but it’s easier to blame Brett Hull). I’m over at IPB today, with all the other people who are putting their lives on hold for trade deadline, you sho… [...]
Is he going for the “Crunchy went to MSU so lets start rumors about him going back to Michigan” angle or something?
Probably. Crunchy loves Michigan and I think people just go on silly tangents from there.
“He got a lot of points FOUR YEARS ago in the playoffs, and that is really good.”
Well, like I said…he is still a point-per-game producer. So even though Tampa has stunk out loud and been bounced every year since, he’s still scored some damn points.
I was just trying to bring some totally uncharacteristic positivity!
Oh, I’m sorry, Pookie. The nicotine monster is just jumping on my back, and I’m so cranky that we lost Juicy. I’ll never see his big pants in a Stars uniform ever again! :wails:
So even though Tampa has stunk out loud and been bounced every year since, he’s still scored some damn points.
Yeah, it’s not Brad Richards’ fault that Tampa’s management has no idea how to run an NHL franchise.
Seriously? Is he going for the “Crunchy went to MSU so lets start rumors about him going back to Michigan” angle or something?
That’s about what I was thinking. We Osgood playing well, they don’t need Crunchy.
Probably. Crunchy loves Michigan and I think people just go on silly tangents from there.
Pretty much. The thing is though, Barnaby lives in Buffalo, so he’s a lot closer to the team than some of the national media. I don’t expect this from him, and hope Ray lets him have it at their next taping of “Enforcers.”
“…I wouldn’t mind them picking up a 5th defenseman who is a slightly better skater than Pratt and has a mean streak.”
WORD.
I totally agree. I wouldn’t even mind seeing us pick up an offensive minded d-man to replace Soupy. Check that…and offensive minded d-man who is also a little bit responsible in his own end.
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Caitlin kept me updated (thanks babe!). I’m so sorry Stars fans for the loss of Smitty and Jussi and Halpie! It’ll get better? I dunno. Richards ain’t all bad. Holmqvist ain’t all bad either.
We Osgood playing well, they don’t need Crunchy.
With Osgood playing well, and with Howard looking pretty damn good in his NHL starts (after three years of grooming in the AHL with the promise of being the “future of Red Wings goaltending” he’d damn well better!) we aren’t looking to bring in outside goaltending at all…
Crunchy loves Michigan and I think people just go on silly tangents from there.
I really want to know what Crunchy saw to love in LANSING. But then again, it’s Crunchy we’re talking about.
I’m sorry! I’ll never do it again. @@@
Don’t stop! I’m starting to waiver!
I have a bunch of Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen, and Jeff Halpern moments running through my head. Seeing Mike Smith rock out to the Tragically Hip, Jussi saying “YA”, Halpie telling me that I should wear a jacket because it’s 40 degrees outside. I need more tissues, IPB!
I really want to know what Crunchy saw to love in LANSING. But then again, it’s Crunchy we’re talking about.
Well, I think he’s really close to his family and I can understand loving the place you grew up even if it’s not the most loveable of places.
I think Barnaby’s kind of an idiot in this regard. I like him but he gave some pretty stupid interviews with WGR about the Campbell situation while negotiations were going on. I take everything he says about the team with a big fat grain of salt.
OH GOD, TSN IS GOING TO INTERVIEW MIKE SMITH?! I NEED MORE TISSUES.
Steph, I loved how Pierre was gushing during NBC’s broadcast of the Stars/Wings game about how “Detroit has found their goalie!”
Like y’all just tripped over him and had no idea he’d be able to make big saves in a real game.
Caitlin kept me updated (thanks babe!).
No problem! And my smoking co-worker knows not to give me any today, so there’s no danger of Caitlin smoking. :D Thankfully. Other people might have to save me from myself today. Ha!
I need more tissues, IPB!
*sends you manymanymany Kleenex*
Avs get Salei from Florida for Skrastins and a 3rd. Whoopie.
Well, I think he’s really close to his family and I can understand loving the place you grew up even if it’s not the most loveable of places.
Ahh, that would make more sense. I wasn’t thinking about his family being near there and where he grew up, just that the most redeeming factor of Lansing, MI is that Beaners coffee and Gumby’s pizza both started out there.
holy shit. i can’t get over poor Price. that just instantly makes Washington a playoff contender :/
:0 whoa Robert Lang pulled off the practice :0