Watching the Sabres/Thrashers game tonight, we couldn’t help but roll our eyes heavily at the lunatic ravings of the crotchety old men on MSG during the second intermission as they discussed the latest rule-change talk in the NHL. But you know what? We can rave like crotchety lunatics with the best of them, and since so many people clearly care what we think about the state of the game (thus the way the league has hastened to take shootouts away), we’d like to go on record saying that we love the idea of a rule banning skaters leaving their feet to block shots. We might be making this up, but we think we can remember a time when you wouldn’t see three or four guys topple over every time an opposing player made like he was going to fire a shot. Again, that might be apocryphal, but it just seems much more prevalent than it used to be. (And we used to walk to school in the driving snow, with shoes made of newspaper, uphill both ways. Shut up! We did!) Now, we’ve not got as much of a beef with shot blocking while players are standing upright (like little Rory Calhouns!), or with the half-butterfly “one foot on the ice and one knee on the ice” approach, both of which would be legal if a rule outlawing leaving both feet was put into place. When a guy doesn’t splay himself prone all over the ice to block shots with the entire length of his slightly armor-clad body, he’s leaving himself open to, we don’t know… keep skating after blocking the shot. And he’s also letting, we don’t know… his goaltender do the job of splaying out all over the ice to block shots with his own totally armor-clad body. Call us Devils fans, but we just feel like the flop-style shotblock isn’t as sound a hockey play as the staying-on-your-feet shotblock. So why not encourage defenders to play smarter, instead of just harder? And get off our lawn!
IPB’s Take On Outlawing Shotblocking, Wherein We Are Cranky Old People
November 7, 2008 by Schnookie
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with the half-butterfly “one foot on the ice and one knee on the ice” approach
Hmmm. I wonder who plays like that, Patty?
Here we go…
Are you guys wearing curlers in your hair and doing each other’s nails and staying up late giggling and talking about boys? I hope so!
Oh, and what is with the lack of HD for this game? Hmmmm? Any answers from the Stars contingent?
Hey! Zubov! Woo hoo!
We are talking about boys and giggling but Hub keeps frowning at us.
Brunnstrom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:^:::::::::::::::::::::::
WOOOOOOOOOO!!! (Of course, I dropped Fabi from the BoxPanners; I knew it would spark him!)
Patty says thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Yummstrom! :D
I can’t believe Hub doesn’t want to talk boys with you two! Has Patty taken over the remote to demonstrate her virtuoso pausing skills? She is CRAZY good at pausing just when hotties are looking their finest during games and interviews.
Hub has firm control over the remote right now.
WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I can’t take credit for that one.
Parrish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yahooooo!!! (This is Patty!)
(Wow. It really IS like typing on a cloud!)
It really IS like typing on a cloud!
:^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: I should have let you use mine when I was there! :D
Russian! Russian is back!
I am crying tears of vodka RIGHT NOW.
We are so happy for you, Caitlin!!!
Tears of vodka are exactly what he would want! You’re his best fan ever, Caitlin!
The fancy and lovely Mr. Boucher!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Bummer….
Stars hockey is just not the same without the crochety Russian, I must say. For me, at least.
Daley hates the Ducks, I think. :(
Daley hates the Ducks, I think. :(
He’s like, “Surely I’m not the only one!”
And you’re right, Caitlin. Once a team is used to a crotchety Russian, it’s just not the same when he’s gone.
Once a team is used to a crotchety Russian, it’s just not the same when he’s gone.
I had forgotten how amazingly amazing his passes are. Yay!
Hopefully, the Stars can keep this up for two more periods. *knock on wood*
Oh no, they’re showing us the golf tournament footage. Hullie will show up somewhere in here.
-Ookies, I hope you are watching this featurette.
I seriously hope you just saw Brett Hull.
I…don’t even know how to describe that.
I thought at first he was a dumpy fan but… I guess not! :D
That was one, as Patty said, “dorky” hat.
Just… wow.
Just… wow.
:^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
What is wrong with him? Wait, don’t answer that. :p
Patty was not happy!!! Bouche should not be fighting! But then all those metal plates could give him an advantage.
Oooh, we were making hot chocolate (with our new hot chocolate maker — THANKS, CAITLIN!) and now we’ve come back, the Stars have another goal. Clearly we need to have more ho-cho!
Oh, and WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Hahahahahahaha!!!!
That was too fun!!!
Yay! A new hot chocolate maker?! How fabulous!
And woo, Mark Parrish! Giguere flipping out on the bench! Niedermeyer falling on his ass! I love it!
Niskanen is sorely disappointing me this evening. Very depressing.
OMG! Morrow was singing!!!
Crap! We missed Giggy flipping out on the bench? That blows! That’s one of my favorite things in hockey!
And yeah, we got this electric ho-cho maker with certain Williams Sonoma moneys, and it’s AWESOME. I make a lot of ho-cho in the wintertime, and this is going to make my life SO MUCH BETTER. In fact, I’m going to write a post about it for IPB tomorrow! We just took 10,000 pictures of it! :D
OMG! Morrow was singing!!!
Myra, I have to find the Youtube video for you of Brenden laughing at the fat guy on the Jumbotron when we played the Flyers last year if you haven’t already seen it. Brenden is hilarious.
Schnookie, Giguere threw his mask on the bench and screamed and sat his pouty ass on the bench. And every time the camera turns on him, he looks like a pouty bitch. I love it!
I make a lot of ho-cho in the wintertime, and this is going to make my life SO MUCH BETTER. In fact, I’m going to write a post about it for IPB tomorrow! We just took 10,000 pictures of it! :D
Yay! I’m so excited. See, I couldn’t come up with anything cool that I could think of that you guys didn’t already have, so I’m glad I got you something you could use to buy something fabulous! I’m thrilled you guys got something fantastic for the unicorn kitchen!
What did Niskanen do, Caitlin!!!
Myra, that Anaheim goal was partly his fault – he’s been doing this weird thing where he’ll go cover the net, but he’ll either be drawn into screens or he’ll just stand there and watch while someone gets all up in his face. I’ve seen more than a few goals scored this season because Niskanen just stands there and looks confused.
Sigh.
Maybe he’s just hungover. Still.
Giguere threw his mask on the bench and screamed and sat his pouty ass on the bench. And every time the camera turns on him, he looks like a pouty bitch.
Aw man, I love that! Hee hee hee! Way to go, Stars! :D
And as for the ho-cho maker, I’m finding myself wondering how we lived so long without it. I never would have thought an electric hot chocolate kettle thingie would be so necessary to my life, so a million thanks to you for spurring us to buy it! Someday when you visit here, we’ll make you a cup of ho-cho in thanks. :D
I’ve seen more than a few goals scored this season because Niskanen just stands there and looks confused.
Yeah, he seemed to be having some issues on that goal. Good thing the guys have got his back tonight!
I thought it might be something along those lines.
I thought it might be something along those lines.
Yeah, I love the kid, but something funky is going on there. Hopefully with Russian back, he’ll improve – he needs a really strong D partner, I think.
And they say Otter never fights. Hee. I love Otter.
God bless Otter for landing that one stupendous punch on Pronger. Made my life.
[This is Patty] Go Bouche! And stop fighting! :D
I’m liking this game so far, but I don’t want to get too big a head. There’s still another period to go, you know.
There’s still another period to go, you know.
Please. These are the Ducks. :P
I am glad to report that Sweater Vest is rockin’ a sweater vest! YAY!
It’s the amazing Sweater Vest!!!
Sweater Vest is oddly attractive without all that mess on his face.
I know, I might have broken IPB with that Heika comment. :P
I think you did.
You know, it just FIGURES that when the Stars are winning, a lame ex-boyfriend has to pop up to make me miserable.
THANKS.
Other than that, I am thoroughly enjoying this game.
Russian is on top of his camera avoidance game tonight.
I’m sorry! We just flipped over to the Wii for the intermission to run a few MarioKart races! After the emotional highs and lows of this past week, we needed to unwind a bit. :D
a lame ex-boyfriend has to pop up to make me miserable.
Have you done something to anger the cosmos or something? :D
Schnookie, keep not watching! Richards scored, woo!
Patty says finally we scored 5 instead of having 5 scored against us!
Patty says finally we scored 5 instead of having 5 scored against us!
See? What goes around comes around! :D
And we’ve got the game on now! WOO HOO!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you done something to anger the cosmos or something? :D
Clearly. The lame ex-boyfriend seemed to think when we were dating that Pronger was the shit, so let’s just blame that goal on him. :P
I’m glad you’re blaming the ex-boyfriend and not us for turning the game back on. :P
Clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap!!!!!
That rule is fine for the 3 teams that have goalies who would post a better than .500 save percentage otherwise, and I know you all like high scores Down South There (or so we were constantly told during The Great Expansions) but that’s a bit extreme.
How else are the Red Light Racicots of the NHL supposed to stay employed? THINK OF THE GOALIES!
I’d like the Stars a lot better without Avery and/or Ott, and I’d like the Ducks a lot better without Getzlaf (oooo he drives me insane for some reason I can’t put my finger on), and I think as an Oilers fan I’m supposed to hate Pronger. But I did watch a good chunk of the Stars-Ducks game last night with my stepdaughter, and she was laughing because I couldn’t decide who I wanted to lose. I did cheer when Pronger and Ott scrapped though: “DESTROY EACH OTHER! GO GUYS! OTT, YOU PUNCH PRONGER IN THE FACE! PRONGER, YOU FALL ON OTT AND SQUISH HIM!”
Yeah, I have nothing better to do on Friday nights.
Oh, I just realized NJ no longer has a goalie better than Red Light Racicot either.
Maybe the ookies should re-think their position on blocks?
Maybe the ookies should re-think their position on blocks?
NEVER! :P
I’d rather Weeks get to the see the shot and miss it than have a skater go down to block it, get injured, and deflect the puck past Weeks; it’s going to be a goal anyway, why lose a guy to a broken foot in the process? And seriously, every time a Devils d-man tries to block a shot, it deflects past the goalie. Gah! But on the off-chance it didn’t deflect into the net, all the player would have accomplished is punching the puck back into play where the other team now outnumbers his own because he’s sprawled over the ice sliding further and further away from his correct position on the ice! Gah! Gah! GAH! It drives me insane!!!
Your a Devils fan and you like this idea, lol. You better hope that the “D” blocks alot more shots now that Martin is on the shelf for 3-4 months. This idea has no merit and would not even get any consideration if Bob Gainey did not bring it forward. How do you combat the flopping to block shots? Move the puck my friend.
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You better hope that the “D” blocks alot more shots now that Martin is on the shelf for 3-4 months.
Or rather, I better hope that the “D” plays the soundest defense it can now that Martin is on the shelf for 3-4 months. Sliding out of position to block shots isn’t
necessarilyoften the soundest defensive play in the long run, so no, I’d rather not hope that the “D” blocks more shots (sliding out of control, with two feet off the ice, and with soft, squishy head at slapshot height), thank you very much! :DHey, this isn’t a statement that we don’t like defensemen getting in front of shots (although often we don’t, but that’s another story) — this is just a statement that we don’t like defensemen leaving their feet to block shots. The Devils are discouraged from doing it because it takes the defenseman out of position — that makes a lot of sense to us.
“DESTROY EACH OTHER! GO GUYS! OTT, YOU PUNCH PRONGER IN THE FACE! PRONGER, YOU FALL ON OTT AND SQUISH HIM!”
HAHAHAHA! Fights like that are either the best or the worst — I never really can decide. But yeah, hoping for mutual obliteration is really all you can do. :D
I love when our intermission breaks turn into crochety old men bitch sessions. Mike Robitaille gets especially cranky from time to time.
And I would think that argument #1 against the splaying out method of shot blocking would be Patrick Thoreson almost losing his left bit last spring using said style.
Yeah, you’d think that would stop some of the guys from trying that move. :D (Of course, then you get the argument, “Shot blocking is all about COURAGE! You could lose a bit doing it! It’s MANLY!” To which I say, “You can just as effectively get in front of a shot while you’re still on your feet, and then you can skate away with it. That’s even manlier.” Pfft. I’m right and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong! :P)
In your arguments, replace every instance of “shot block” with “body check” and see how it reads.
I realize I’m unlikely to convince you, but hopefully I made you think before you dipped back into the IPB Manor Wine. I wish I had some wine. Damnit.
In your arguments, replace every instance of “shot block” with “body check” and see how it reads.
It suggests that you are reading our point far too simplistically.
Using your “body check” test here, we’re equating leaving-the-feet-and-sliding-around-the-defensive-zone shot blocking with running-around-trying-to-hit-guys-and-missing-them-or-injuring-yourself bodychecking. The kind of hitting that leads to defensive breakdowns and stupid, avoidable, self-inflicted injuries. Shotblocking that involves staying on your feet or only going down on one knee would be like intelligent, effective bodychecking. Not all body checks are the same, and neither are all instances of shot blocking.
Sliding to block shots doesn’t always take you out of position though. Intelligent sliding is like a hard hit that *could* have taken you out of position *had* it missed. But it didn’t.
I know what you’re saying, I just don’t agree, but I didn’t think I’d convince you anyway.
I was mostly wanting to whine about wine.
Whining about wine is ALWAYS welcome here! :D
Buuut DAAAAAAAAAD, I don’t WANNNA do my homework!
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