A Super/Amazing Proposal

November 16, 2008 by Schnookie

Calling all Super/Amazing League participants! We have been discussing, as fantasy hockey GMs are wont to do, the relative states of our rosters, and have noticed a trend in our own behaviors. It seems that we both act like girls when it comes to our teams — we are irrationally attached to some players, irrationally loathe others, and hope above all else to avoid conflict with our GM peers. We will spontaneously decide we simply must dump some guy who’s done nothing to deserve our wrath, peruse the free agent options, sigh heavily at how pathetic they all are, and then gaze wistfully at our opponents’ rosters while thinking, “There’s no way that GM would give the guys up that I want.” Do you do that too, fellow GMs? If so, we have a suggestion: a Super/Amazing League White Elephant Sale. We can’t be the only ones who would be surprisingly willing to give up players other people might think were untouchable, can we? And we can’t be the only ones too timid to propose a trade, can we? Is it time for us to open a dialog about what players are on the table? Is it time for us to start shuffling our imaginary emotional baggage to someone else’s team, in exchange for some other GM’s pretend problems? What say you all?

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on November 16, 2008 at 6:50 pm Patty (in Dallas)

…we are irrationally attached to some players, irrationally loathe others…

Irrational? IRRATIONAL?! I don’t think so.
on November 16, 2008 at 6:57 pm Pookie

In Fantasy hockey, Patty! Fantasy hockey! There’s nothing irrational about real hockey.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:05 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I’m talking about fantasy hockey, too! :D

I assume y’all mean this to still be within the confines of the East vs. West rules?

Just to start off, nobody can have Sid. So there. :P I’ll entertain other offers, though.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:06 pm Schnookie

Yes, all swaps would have to adhere to the East/West rules. And this isn’t about who you WON’T give up. This is about the guys you WILL give up. :P
on November 16, 2008 at 7:09 pm Schnookie

Fine, I’ll start — most of you in the AmazingLeague probably think Havlat is untouchable. Well you’d be wrong! (Kiprusoff is also available. As is Kariya. Anyone? Anyone?)
on November 16, 2008 at 7:11 pm Schnookie

I’ll throw in Scott Niedermayer.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:13 pm Schnookie

Okay, who am I kidding? For the right offer, anyone on my roster whose name doesn’t rhyme with Blyan Bletzlaf is available.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:14 pm Pookie

Now that I’ve turned down an offer to trade Nash for Hossa (*kicks self repeatedly*), I’ll go on the record saying:

a) I’ll gladly trade Nash for Hossa now
b) I’m open to hearing proposals for Henrik Sedin and Frolov
c) I irrationally hate Phaneuf even though he’s pretty good
on November 16, 2008 at 7:14 pm Iain

Sean Avery might be available…

Anyone? Anyone?

Hello?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:15 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Ales Kotalik, anybody? Aaron Voros? Manny Fernandez?

Hello? Is this thing on?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:18 pm Iain

And I’d just like a moment of silent contemplation to show sympathy for Cam Janssen, whose goal has now been downgraded to an assist.

Poor ickle Cam.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:21 pm alix

Everyone should irrationally hate Celine Dion.

I kind of love my roster this week.

You can have Marty Biron though :P
on November 16, 2008 at 7:22 pm Pookie

Poor ickle Cam.

:^:::::::::::::::::::::
on November 16, 2008 at 7:25 pm Iain

In fact, I feel so sorry for Cam I’m going to go and lie down in a darkened room.

For about 6 hours.

And then go to work.

THAT’s how bad I feel about it.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:25 pm Schnookie

Wow, Iain, that’s TERRIBLE! Poor ickle Cam indeed!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:35 pm Meg

I’m open to offers for any players but Lidstrom. Honestly the Peons GM has been so distracted by her ongoing pest problems that she has no idea how the players on her real favorite hockey team are doing much less the players on her fantasy team. So you could probably get a real steal, is what I’m saying.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:36 pm Grrrreg

Price just got an assist! wooo!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:39 pm Schnookie

Oooh, Meg, I like this Lidstrom idea. Hm. Is there anyone on the TinTats you’d really like in exchange for him? Say… Scott Niedermayer? (Do you still have bedbugs?)
on November 16, 2008 at 7:40 pm Pookie

Dammit, Meg’s in the other league! I want a steal!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:41 pm Patty (in Dallas)

She said anybody BUT Lidstrom! Calm down!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:41 pm Schnookie

Damn my reading comprehension issues! :P
on November 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm Patty (in Dallas)

If anybody in the SuperLeague has a decent goalie, but irrationally loves Cam Ward, I’ll listen.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:44 pm Grrrreg

About the Cam Janssen goal, it was given to Regier instead, and it’s his first nhl goal, so at least, someone’s happy about it!

Pookie, I’d love to help you get rid of Phaneuf… :)
I’ll think about the players I want to get rid of tomorrow morning. It’s too late right now. But let me say Im pretty happy about my little worshippers so far.
See ya!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:47 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Katebits, see anybody on my team you might want?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:49 pm Meg

She said anybody BUT Lidstrom! Calm down!

Thank you, Patty! I tried to post that and then had issues. I think the internet was interfering with my attempt to whine horrifically about bedbugs. Suffice it to say, yes I still have them and they’re the most awful pest I can imagine and I wouldn’t wish them on anyone. I found them a month ago tomorrow and it’s pretty much been the worst month of my life.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:49 pm Pookie

Pookie, I’d love to help you get rid of Phaneuf… :)

How about Phaneuf for Weber?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:50 pm Pookie

Meg, I am so sorry! How is it that they’re that hard to get rid of?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:51 pm Schnookie

OH NO, Meg! That’s AWFUL! I’m so sorry! What are the courses of action you can take now to get rid of the bedbugs? Do you just keep spraying for them and stuff?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:52 pm Meg

About the Cam Janssen goal, it was given to Regier instead, and it’s his first nhl goal, so at least, someone’s happy about it!

I saw this and was very confused for a minute, all, “I think Darcy’s a bit old to be scoring his first NHL goal. That ship has probably sailed.” There’s another Regier?
on November 16, 2008 at 7:53 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Oh, no! Meg that’s terrible! I have heard they’re hard to get rid of but I had no idea!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:55 pm Schnookie

(By the way, Meg, want to swap Boyes for Holmstrom? I’ve got no beef with Holmstrom, and, in fact, really like him, but I want to shake up my team. I’m like Hullie. I’m a force for destruction within my team, and the players all hate me. Except for Getzi. He just likes to follow me around and have his shirt fall off. He gets a little treat, like a bite of liverwurst or the like, when he does that. He’s a very simple man, Getzi.)
on November 16, 2008 at 7:57 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Bill Clement! I thought he died in Vegas!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:58 pm Schnookie

When we started watching the Flyers on our cable last year, I was SO EXCITED to see Clement. He’s hilarious. I love him being all, “You know what I love about Gagne?” there. We’re like, “That he’s a Flyer?” He’s like a Chico-style homer. He’s so soft-headedly charming about it.
on November 16, 2008 at 7:59 pm Pookie

Al Morganti! I thought he died on the Moon after he reported Patrick Roy was going to Philly!
on November 16, 2008 at 7:59 pm Meg

Meg, I am so sorry! How is it that they’re that hard to get rid of?

They’re small and very flat so they can hide anywhere and they only eat blood so you can’t bait them like cockroaches. Their eggs can be killed by heat but aren’t killed by the pesticides and some groups are even pesticide resistant. Also, I think the extermination company sent people who were not sufficiently thorough the first three times. I had someone over yesterday and he was here for like four hours. I slept at my grandparents because of the timing and I haven’t seen any since I got back today but I do think I’ve been bitten.

I think I didn’t know nearly enough at the start and if this doesn’t work I’m going to seriously consider paying for another exterminator who has a bedbug dog. Even if I do think they’re gone I might spend the money to have a dog in to smell around and give the all clear before I relax at all.

A lot of the stress though comes from the fact that they’re so easy to transport and bring to other people or bring to work (and then reinfest myself, probably). Also, since my management doesn’t consider it their problem and the apartments around me aren’t going to be inspected I have to try and bedbug proof my apartment which is . . . difficult.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:02 pm Pookie

Holy crap, that’s so stressful! Meg, I am so sorry! It’s a wonder we all don’t have them all the time.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:02 pm Schnookie

Man, Meg, that’s just terrible. I wish I could help. If I had a bedbug dog, I’d totally let you use it for free. (I’d also offer you a couch to sleep on if you wanted to stay in NJ, but… I don’t want bedbugs. Sorry. But I would needlepoint you a nice “UNCLEAN” sign to wear around your neck if you want one. :P)
on November 16, 2008 at 8:06 pm Meg

(I’d also offer you a couch to sleep on if you wanted to stay in NJ, but… I don’t want bedbugs. Sorry. But I would needlepoint you a nice “UNCLEAN” sign to wear around your neck if you want one. :P)

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::

That or “bug-ridden.”

And yeah, I’m not a great guest right now. I went to my grandparents with only clothes taken from a plastic bag and theoretically sterile and that’s about it. If I give them bedbugs I might just jump off a building.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:09 pm Meg

Oh, and Schnookie, I’ll take you up on that Boyes for Holmstrom trade. I liked having Holmstrom on my team last year and even though Boyes is a useful player I just can’t warm up to him. Go ahead and propose it.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:11 pm Schnookie

Sweet! I was actually really proud of myself for picking Holmstrom up after the auto-draft, but I’m just looking for a change. Thanks so much, Meg! (I’ll probably regret this, but whatevs. Homer’s been a cancer in the dressing room since Day One. Getzi hates that guy. :P)
on November 16, 2008 at 8:11 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Boyes has a cute Coburn-esque commercial, too.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:13 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Speaking of fantasy teams, Kimmo needs to do something tonight. He’s the only skater I’ve got playing.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:14 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Has Homer been making fun of Getzi’s teeth?
on November 16, 2008 at 8:14 pm Pookie

Patty, that’s exactly why I said to Schnookie, “Boyes? Oh I love him! He’s great for the BoxPanners!” Then she looked at his stats and was like, WTF? I’m like, “Uh… But he’s adorable? Shut up! Go away!”
on November 16, 2008 at 8:15 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Is he not doing that well this season, Pookie? I’m sure he’ll snap out of it!
on November 16, 2008 at 8:16 pm Schnookie

Has Homer been making fun of Getzi’s teeth?

That’s just for starters. He also makes fun of his lisp. Getzi’s like, “But I don’t even have a lisp!” but that just makes Homer’s taunting even worse.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:17 pm Pookie

Boyes is pretty good — Schnookie was just laughing at his -14 rating.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:19 pm Patty (in Dallas)

WOOOO! Timmonen!! Just what I needed!
on November 16, 2008 at 8:20 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Y’all, in honor of my worst hockey day in YEARS, I’m making brownie-mix brownies right now. I might eat the whole pan.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:21 pm Meg

Boyes is pretty good — Schnookie was just laughing at his -14 rating.

Yeah, he had a crapload of goals last year (he was a Rabid Chinchilla then). The Peons are pretty much the queens of the bad +/-.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:22 pm Meg

Y’all, in honor of my worst hockey day in YEARS, I’m making brownie-mix brownies right now. I might eat the whole pan.

You do it, Patty!
on November 16, 2008 at 8:23 pm Schnookie

Y’all, in honor of my worst hockey day in YEARS, I’m making brownie-mix brownies right now. I might eat the whole pan.

Wait, you haven’t made brownies yet? That would have been the first thing I did. (Of course, we have several cases of brownie mix on hand thanks to a recent Costco run…) (And now that I’m thinking about it, brownies would be really nice tonight. Like, sympathy brownies.)
on November 16, 2008 at 8:24 pm Schnookie

The TinTats are SO excited to add Boyes to the fold. There are wholly not enough alliterative names on our roster. Nor are there enough Brads.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:27 pm Pookie

Mmmmmmmmmmmm sympathy brownies… Patty, you should totally eat the whole pan. That’s what Bouche would be doing right now, except Sid keeps knocking the brownies out of his hands saying, “Unkie Mario says NO SWEETS!”
on November 16, 2008 at 8:27 pm Amy

The Peons are pretty much the queens of the bad +/-.

Same with The Little Honkers. They’re always on the ice at the wrong time, the poor dears.

I don’t want to give him up, but I do want to kick some sense into Soupy. Anyone want to help?
on November 16, 2008 at 8:29 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Everybody make brownies! That’s the only way I’ll feel better.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:31 pm Schnookie

They’re always on the ice at the wrong time, the poor dears.

:^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: You’re such a supportive and understanding GM, Amy! Me? I throw things at the TinTats’ heads, so that they resent me and make a point of being deliberately shitty.

Everybody make brownies! That’s the only way I’ll feel better.

For you? I can do that.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:31 pm Pookie

Amy, when find the secret to getting Soupy’s head back in the game, let me know.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:33 pm Meg

Everybody make brownies! That’s the only way I’ll feel better.

I don’t like to spend time in my kitchen these days (I’m trying to be bug bait in my room so my whole apartment doesn’t get infested if it isn’t already) but know that in my imagination I’m making pans of brownies and eating them all.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:35 pm Amy

You’re such a supportive and understanding GM, Amy!

It’s November. There’s plenty of hockey left to be played. See me next month when I’m swearing like a sailor at Soupy spinorama-ing himself into a turnover.

And I can’t make brownies, but I’m having a frosted sugar cookie in your honor, Patty.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:41 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Those are close enough, Meg and Amy! :P
on November 16, 2008 at 8:43 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I’m all misty again as I read Mike Heika’s post about talking to Bouche from his son’s hockey game this morning. And how he’ll have to live in a hotel or apartment and only talk to his kids on the phone. They’re 10 and 5. And over on the Pittsburgh site, they said his 5-year-old daughter said, “Daddy’s going to play with Sidney Crosby!”

(Have I told this story already? I’m a little out of sorts.)
on November 16, 2008 at 8:44 pm Patty (in Dallas)

And how he wanted to retire here. Shit. I hate hockey.
on November 16, 2008 at 8:45 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Huh. The brownies seem to be making it worse. :D
on November 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm Schnookie

Aww, Patty, I’m so sorry!
on November 16, 2008 at 8:58 pm Meg

Oh, Patty, I’m sorry the brownies made it worse. It’s funny how sometimes the things we think will make us feel better don’t…
on November 16, 2008 at 9:01 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Maybe I just haven’t had enough brownies. There’s still half left. Maybe I need ice cream.
on November 16, 2008 at 9:06 pm Pookie

Oh totally, you need ice cream!
on November 16, 2008 at 9:09 pm Schnookie

Patty, do these help?

Sympathy brownies 1

Sympathy brownies 2

Sympathy brownies 3

Sympathy brownies 4
on November 16, 2008 at 9:13 pm Amy

Do the sympathy brownie photos mean that The General is back up and running?
on November 16, 2008 at 9:14 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Oh, man! Y’all are the best!
on November 16, 2008 at 9:14 pm Schnookie

Do the sympathy brownie photos mean that The General is back up and running?

Sadly, no. And what’s worse is that now that I’ve used The General, I’m way more frustrated with our PowerShot than I ever thought imaginable. :(
on November 16, 2008 at 9:15 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Oh my gosh, Amy! In my distress, I forgot to ask how the General is feeling!
on November 16, 2008 at 9:18 pm Schnookie

Patty, I’ll give you a pass. Just this once. :P (If you’d been asking after The General I would have wondered what was wrong with you.)
on November 16, 2008 at 9:18 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Oh, no! Leaving it alone didn’t help? I’m SO SORRY! I was sure that’s all it was. Dammit!
on November 16, 2008 at 9:23 pm Schnookie

I was POSITIVE he’d be working this morning. I mean, absolutely, 100% positive. His power comes on, but the card reader seems to be fried. It’s… distressing.

Fortunately, we had been planning to get a second camera body, either for Christmas or for my birthday, and this prompted us to move up our timetable a bit. We found a really good price online, and the Gopher Volante should be arriving at stately IPB Manor either Tuesday or Wednesday. Pookie’s hoping The General will take one look at the newer, younger, prettier model (actually, they’re exactly the same) and be shamed back into good health.
on November 16, 2008 at 9:31 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I assume you tried different cards? (I know that’s like asking if it’s plugged in, but I have to ask.)
on November 16, 2008 at 9:32 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Are you going to take it to the shop? Maybe it’s a minor repair.
on November 16, 2008 at 9:33 pm Schnookie

I assume you tried different cards? (I know that’s like asking if it’s plugged in, but I have to ask.)

Hee! And yeah, we did. We tried the card that was in The General in our PowerShot, to make sure it was working, and we tried another 4GB card in The General, then Boomer went out to get a 2GB card to see if he’d be happier with a smaller one. None of them worked. This is what he looks like now. :(
on November 16, 2008 at 9:34 pm Schnookie

Are you going to take it to the shop? Maybe it’s a minor repair.

Yeah, Boomer’s earning her “Taking The Camera To A Camera Shop To Consult With An Expert” merit badge tomorrow.
on November 16, 2008 at 9:40 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Poor General. I hope he feels better soon.
on November 16, 2008 at 9:42 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Stupid Sharks!
on November 16, 2008 at 9:45 pm Schnookie

We were just watching the Ducks using real guns. With real bullets. It was… disturbing.
on November 16, 2008 at 10:09 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Yecch!
on November 16, 2008 at 10:15 pm Schnookie

You said it, Patty.
on November 16, 2008 at 10:17 pm Chaz

I’m sorry to hear The General is still not feeling well. =’(

As for Les Phoque-ups in the Superleague only Tanguay and Semin are blocked. Anyone else can be had for the right price.
on November 16, 2008 at 10:19 pm Schnookie

Thanks, Chaz. And I’d be making a run at your roster if I was a SuperLeaguer. :D
on November 16, 2008 at 11:24 pm Gambler

Chaz, I irrationally love Marty Biron SO MUCH. I don’t suppose you’d be interested in Toskala or Lehtonen?

Also, in case anyone in the SuperLeague is interested in my roster, all EXCEPT these are open to negotiation: Vinny, Vanek, Malkin, St Louis, and Miller. I’m especially open to offers that involve me getting some good defensemen…
on November 17, 2008 at 8:53 am Amy

I’m especially open to offers that involve me getting some good defensemen…

Does it seem like the defenseman pool is really weak this year, especially for the Western Conference? When I lost Beauchemin late last week, I felt like I was scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a replacement.
on November 17, 2008 at 9:02 am Pookie

I felt like I was scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a replacement.

I hear that. What I don’t understand is that the Amazingleague doesn’t seem like it has a lot of WC teams, and yet there’s never anyone available!
on November 17, 2008 at 9:39 am Caitlin

Morning, everyone! I’m late to this, but anyone on the Meat Pies is available, unless they’re Russian. Then I irrationally want to keep them. Come on, you guys KNOW you want Drury and Briere!
on November 17, 2008 at 9:57 am Schnookie

Good morning everyone!

And the position where I feel like I’m most scraping the bottom of the barrel is LW. It seems like in either conference, all the LWs suck.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:03 am Caitlin

And the position where I feel like I’m most scraping the bottom of the barrel is LW. It seems like in either conference, all the LWs suck.

I just feel like I’m scraping EVERYTHING, man. Thank God I have Malkin, he’s the only thing keeping me – oh, wait, still last place in the league. :D Yay!

I don’t feel much better about regular hockey. Poor, poor Patty. I think the Boucher/Syd trade broke me or something, because I’ve gone from being bummed to being pissed. I think I need to self-medicate, yes? :D
on November 17, 2008 at 10:06 am Grrrreg

How about Phaneuf for Weber?

Hmmm, after a long night of reflexion, Pookie, if you’d still go for it, we have a deal. I love Shea Weber this year, partly because he is clearly trying to make up for the shitty numbers he had in my fantasy league last year. (I had him when he was injured…) So I wasn’t thinking to move him. But Dion, hmmmm, I hear this kid is good.

I don’t want to mess too much with my team, since the worshippers ARE FIRST IN THE SUPERLEAGUE!!! but I could eventually deal:

Duncan Keith
Dustin Brown
Brenden Morrow
on November 17, 2008 at 10:13 am Schnookie

Thank God I have Malkin, he’s the only thing keeping me – oh, wait, still last place in the league.

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: No, wait, I mean, “Aww, bummer!” :P

I’ve gone from being bummed to being pissed.

You know, I think that might be an improvement, because being pissed isn’t as passive as being bummed. Uhhh… If that makes any sense? (I’m thinking in blogger terms — I’d rather be able to write angry posts than whimpering, pathetic ones. :P)
on November 17, 2008 at 10:16 am Meg

Good morning everyone. My CEO keeps zipping past the cubicles near me on a Segway. Sometimes with no hands. Just going back and forth. I feel like I’m living in that Capitals video. Except with a middle-aged British man instead of a hockey player. I have no idea what’s going on.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:23 am Caitlin

Except with a middle-aged British man instead of a hockey player. I have no idea what’s going on.

WOAH. This is amazing! That is insane! Meg, I laughed out loud. I’m sorry, that must be so odd to have happening around you, though. :D

Uhhh… If that makes any sense? (I’m thinking in blogger terms — I’d rather be able to write angry posts than whimpering, pathetic ones. :P)

I think so. Honestly, I haven’t been doing any hockey blogging this season, because towards the end of last season, it was really sucking the fun out of hockey for me. And this season, I haven’t really been motivated to DO anything hockey related, as I kind of had to pick between one set of blogs and the other.

But this has me worked up enough to get back into it, I think. (I don’t know where I’ll find the time, but okay! :D)

A lot of the reasons why I love the Stars so much are disappearing and fast. It’s enough to drive a girl to drink…more, that is.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:23 am Pookie

Grrreg, I know it’s probably really stupid to deal Phaneuf, but he’s poisoning my dressing room. I think he’s looking for a change of scenery, and I think a trip to the Pronger Worshippers is what he needs! I’ll try to get the ball rolling on that trade in Yahoo is just a sec. I actually had my eye on Duncan Keith, too, since Schnookie was always raving about him. Let me see who else is on my blueline who I might be able to tempt you with.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:26 am Meg

I’m sorry, that must be so odd to have happening around you, though. :D

Oh, it’s fantastic. Totally made my morning.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:28 am Caitlin

Oh, it’s fantastic. Totally made my morning.

Hee! That’s so awesome, Meg. :D I wish I could’ve seen it!
on November 17, 2008 at 10:29 am Amy

It seems like in either conference, all the LWs suck.

And yet the reverse is true for RW in both conferences. Funny how that works.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:30 am Schnookie

Meg, that’s amazing about your CEO! My entire department is in a two-day all-day training session on a site an hour away from here. Only the admins didn’t have to go. So I’m all alone in the building today and it’s MARVELOUS!

A lot of the reasons why I love the Stars so much are disappearing and fast. It’s enough to drive a girl to drink…more, that is.

Yeah, that totally blows. Pookie and I have long worried about what would happen to us in the post-Marty, post-Lou, post-Doc Devils era. Just, are we Devils fans, or are we fans of the team that’s got those three? Of course, Lou hasn’t been Lou since the lockout, and now I’m learning what life is like without Marty. Now it all comes down to just Doc. :P (And as for being angry vs. pathetic, I didn’t necessarily mean to suggest you should resume hockey blogging if it makes things annoying for you, Caitlin. @@@ I think I kind of just meant that I personally prefer being angry to depressed, but maybe that’s because I’m in the opposite boat right now. If our roles were reversed I’d probably be all, “Man, I WISH I could just be sad about my team’s fortunes right now. Grrrr!”)
on November 17, 2008 at 10:30 am Schnookie

And yet the reverse is true for RW in both conferences. Funny how that works.

It’s so true! A lot of those guys need to get listed as RW/LWs now. Right? Sigh.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:36 am Pookie

Oh, for anyone who’s wondering — WordPress got back to us about the comment numbering. Apparently the numbers were removed for design reasons. Keep your fingers crossed enough people complained and that they’ll get put back!
on November 17, 2008 at 10:36 am Caitlin

And as for being angry vs. pathetic, I didn’t necessarily mean to suggest you should resume hockey blogging if it makes things annoying for you, Caitlin. @@@ I think I kind of just meant that I personally prefer being angry to depressed, but maybe that’s because I’m in the opposite boat right now.

Oh, no, that’s not what I meant at all! @@@@@@

I’ve just been a lazy hockey blogger as of late, and the Stars suckitude certainly hasn’t helped matters any.

The whole situation just stinks. I hate to say it, but if they’re going to replace the whole team, make the coach work a different style of hockey, and totally change the heart of the organization…I’m totally not signing up for that. I think they’ve lost a TON more than they think they’re losing in Boucher, and while I like Sydor, I don’t think we’re getting the same in return.

And I’m sorry! I’m being such a downer this morning. Maybe the Devils will turn it around, or something, Schnookie! Perhaps you guys will get a Ty Conklin-esque story this year? Hmm? HMM? (Maybe not, but I’m hoping for y’all. :D)
on November 17, 2008 at 10:38 am Caitlin

Apparently the numbers were removed for design reasons. Keep your fingers crossed enough people complained and that they’ll get put back!

Sorry to double post, but I’ll e-mail and complain too, because I run the same theme on 1,416 and this switching of all the themes is driving me bananas. :D
on November 17, 2008 at 10:44 am Schnookie

Caitlin, I would be a TOTAL downer if I was in your shoes! It’s SUCH a pain in the ass when your favorite team stops behaving in the manner you’ve come to expect from them.
on November 17, 2008 at 10:51 am Pookie

Woo-hoo! Grrreg just accepted my trade! Thanks, Grrreg, good doing business with you! I’m off to do a press conference introducing the newest BoxPanner, Shea Weber! WOOOO!
on November 17, 2008 at 10:53 am Pookie

Caitlin, I would be a TOTAL downer if I was in your shoes!

Seconded! Any Stars fan who’s still blogging at the end of the season deserves a gold star!
on November 17, 2008 at 10:56 am Schnookie

By the way, you guys, I just have to complain — I’m alone in the office for the next two days… and my intertubes are all gummed up! This is AWFUL!
on November 17, 2008 at 11:08 am Amy

I’m alone in the office for the next two days… and my intertubes are all gummed up!

Yuck. Here’s hoping the intertubes get fixed right quick.

Is it wrong that I’m hoping that if the rumors of several Sabres attending tonight’s MNF game are true, that Lindy would be tooly enough to have an early morning bag skate?
on November 17, 2008 at 11:09 am Caitlin

I just have to complain — I’m alone in the office for the next two days… and my intertubes are all gummed up! This is AWFUL!

Ugh, god, that’s AWFUL!

Any Stars fan who’s still blogging at the end of the season deserves a gold star!

Any Stars fan who’s still a Stars fan at the end of the season might deserve a gold star. :p

Poor Patty. I hope she’s alive today. :/
on November 17, 2008 at 11:11 am Grrrreg

That was a pleasure, Pookie.

We’ll organize a little surprise goodbye party for Shea after the morning skate tomorrow, as he’s been a very good teammate this season. Olli Jokinen, Mikko Koivu and Teemu will bring finnish pastries, Roberto and Brenden Morrow are in charge of the alcohol, and Patrick Kane will provide the sodas, for those who are still under the legal drinking age (well, he’s the only one…)

We can’t wait to welcome Dion, we’re sure he’ll be well received in the dressing room.

By the way, I’m sorry I had to refuse your offer for Duncan Keith. I just think Ilya Bryzgalov wouldn’t have be able to resist making jokes about Rostislav Klesla’s first name. That would have been really awkward.
on November 17, 2008 at 11:16 am Gambler

It seems like in either conference, all the LWs suck.

I have one pretty kickin’ LW in Vanek, but my other two are Elias and a Medium Tits, so… yeah.

Actually, it’s weird. All my players seem to have decent-to-pretty good point totals, and yet I’m still in 9th place. I’m not sure how that works out. Talent, I guess.

And I meant to say this last night, but seriously poor Patty! Now I really wish we’d beaten the crap out of the Pens, if only for her. That sucks SO much.
on November 17, 2008 at 11:18 am Schnookie

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Amy, I love that you’d be hoping for a bag skate!
on November 17, 2008 at 11:23 am Grrrreg

Elias and a Medium Tits

Andrei is Big Tits. There are no bigger Tits than Andrei.
on November 17, 2008 at 11:24 am Amy

All my players seem to have decent-to-pretty good point totals, and yet I’m still in 9th place. I’m not sure how that works out.

If you think that’s odd, try clicking on the head-to-head button and seeing where you would rank if the leagues were run that way. Talk about an eye opener.

I love that you’d be hoping for a bag skate!

I’m only thinking about the health of my Sabres. If they’re going to indulge tonight, the fastest way to purge the hangover from their system tomorrow is through physical activity. And, if it reminds them that :”They Need to Play The System” and “A Game is 60 Minutes Long”, then that can only be considered a bonus.
on November 17, 2008 at 11:33 am Gambler

Andrei is Big Tits.

Thanks, Grrrreg! I can never remember which one is big and which one is little, so I just picked up the Ookies’ habit of calling them both Medium Tits. Good to know that if I have to have a Tits, I at least have the most advanced model.

If you think that’s odd, try clicking on the head-to-head button and seeing where you would rank if the leagues were run that way.

No kidding! I’m ranked second in goal totals! But man my goaltending is really putrid…
on November 17, 2008 at 11:41 am Pookie

By the way, I’m sorry I had to refuse your offer for Duncan Keith.

No, no, that’s cool. Klesla’s kind of killing me, so I’d feel bad foisting him off on someone else anyway. I picked up Wisneiwski at the start of the season, but he’s been on IR the whole season. I keep thinking he’ll come back and save the day. Maybe my players need to come up to me and say, “Wisneiwski is not coming through that door!”
on November 17, 2008 at 11:59 am Mags

Good to know that if I have to have a Tits, I at least have the most advanced model.

:^::::::::::: Only here on IPB. Seriously.

I’m sorry the General is still kaputted, -Ookies! I don’t understand why yours is broken and mine has never had any issues, and yet I’ve put it through worse things than a rain storm. I’m sorry!
on November 17, 2008 at 12:09 pm Schnookie

Good to know that if I have to have a Tits, I at least have the most advanced model.

It’s so true. (And seriously, Pookie and I must just be straight girls, if we’re like, “Meh. They’re both Tits. Tits all look the same to us.” :P)

Mags, thanks for the kind words about The General. I am, frankly, SHOCKED at how crappily he’s held up. I mean, this was five minutes of being mostly covered up in a rainstorm. What the hell kind of camera can’t handle that? RIDONK! Grumble, grumble, grumble. (Not that this displeasure with the shoddy ability of the Rebel to hold up to inclement weather has stopped us from getting a second Rebel or anything…)
on November 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm Mags

Not that this displeasure with the shoddy ability of the Rebel to hold up to inclement weather has stopped us from getting a second Rebel or anything…

Maybe it was just your particular Rebel, because seriously, I dunked my Rebel in a tub of water once (by accident!) (I spelled that addicent first and had to pause for a second before I figured out what was wrong with that. Whoops :D) and nothing happened.

And besides, if movies have taught me anything, it’s that despite all the setbacks, the rebels usually win out in the end.
on November 17, 2008 at 12:33 pm Schnookie

I spelled that addicent first and had to pause for a second before I figured out what was wrong with that. Whoops

I was just looking at that and thinking, “Wait, there’s nothing wrong with ‘addicent’. What is she talking about?” :P

And yuckety-yuck to the rebel joke. :D
on November 17, 2008 at 12:37 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Nobody offered me anything for Manny Fernandez? I’m shocked.
on November 17, 2008 at 12:39 pm Patty (in Dallas)

(I’m thinking in blogger terms — I’d rather be able to write angry posts than whimpering, pathetic ones. :P)

Is that some kind of crack? *pathetic whimpering*
on November 17, 2008 at 12:40 pm Mags

And yuckety-yuck to the rebel joke. :D

I know, I crack myself up ;)

Anyhoo, I’m off for ~~bag skate~~ practice. Have a good afternoon, and I’ll see y’all later!
on November 17, 2008 at 12:42 pm Schnookie

Is that some kind of crack? *pathetic whimpering*

:^::::::::::::::::::: (And no, it was more a crack at myself. *pathetic whimpering right back atcha*)

Have fun at your bag skate, Mags!
on November 17, 2008 at 12:49 pm Patty (in Dallas)

My intertubes are all gummed up, too. Probably from all my pathetic whimpering. :D

I’m okay now, though! Y’all can stop worrying! :P
on November 17, 2008 at 12:52 pm Schnookie

I’m so glad to hear that you’re okay, Patty! I was really worried for you!

These gummed up tubes are SO annoying.
on November 17, 2008 at 12:57 pm Morgan

So here’s a comment that’s a day late and a dollar short. I attended the Caps/Devs game Saturday (mmmmmm dollar hot dogs) with Liz and my sister, and uh wow I am not used to 6-5 games where you have to like cheer and stuff. It is exhausting!

Oh by the way, when Theodore stoned Patty on his breakaway in the second period I totally lost it. After the crowd and I groaned at the save I screamed out, “ROOF THE FREAKIN’ PUCK ELIAS, FOR GOD SAKE, JUST ROOF IT ONCE!”. You know what? Nobody complained, or shot me a dirty look, or nothing. They all knew it was a true.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:15 pm Schnookie

You know what? Nobody complained, or shot me a dirty look, or nothing. They all knew it was a true.

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: And they all realized it will NEVER HAPPEN. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 1:17 pm Patty (in Dallas)

The Stars have waived Crombeen now. I think Hull wants to do like Mags did with her team and just change them ALL out.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:23 pm Schnookie

Wow. Um, well… I guess I can see where the impulse would be to make a lot of changes when a team is underperforming… Maybe Hull wants to be the first guy to dispute the old adage about how you can’t fire the whole team, so that’s why you fire the coach?
on November 17, 2008 at 1:27 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I’m so glad to hear that you’re okay, Patty!

Well, I was really just saying that. So y’all would stop worrying about me. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 1:28 pm Schnookie

Well, I was really just saying that. So y’all would stop worrying about me.

Heheh. I figured as much. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 1:31 pm Gambler

Patty, I was going to see if I could cheer you up by proposing a ridiculously lopsided trade to get Yo-Yo from you, but then I saw you already waived him. Probably the smart choice. Except that now I’m not sure how to try to cheer you up…
on November 17, 2008 at 1:32 pm Myra

The Stars have waived Crombeen now. I think Hull wants to do like Mags did with her team and just change them ALL out.

What the?!? Arrgh.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:35 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Shoot! Who were you going to offer me for him, Gambler? Maybe I’d give you Pommers or Kotalik!
on November 17, 2008 at 1:35 pm Amy

Hull wants to be the first guy to dispute the old adage about how you can’t fire the whole team

The originators of that old adage apparently never entered the blogosphere, where teams are fired, rehired and then fired again every single night.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:37 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I was going to try to wrestle Bouche from the Fancy Bits, but Kate can’t take anybody I have since they’re all EC guys. I’d have to talk her into waiving him, then talk everybody else into not picking him up off waivers.

*dramatic pause*
on November 17, 2008 at 1:39 pm Caitlin

The Stars have waived Crombeen now.

SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY, FUCK THIS SHIT.

I am so, so, so mad.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:42 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Caitlin, I’m sure they’re hoping he’ll pass through and go to the minors, but I doubt he would.

And even if he does, he’ll have to come back through waivers on the way back up.

That whole waiver thing is crap, if you ask me.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:43 pm andrew

Morning everyone, happy Monday (or, not so much for Stars fans. Sorry!)

I think this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hull and Jackson need to be replaced. The rediculous roster moves they’re pulling now are pushing the Stars into Tampa territory. Sorry Patty, Caitlin, Myra, et al. What a drag.

Other than that, everyone have a nice weekend?
on November 17, 2008 at 1:45 pm Gambler

Oooooh, Pommers is pretty tempting, Patty! I forgot you had him. Is there anyone you like from my roster? How about Horton? I hear he’s… good? (I figure I’m such an awesome GM I don’t even have to pay attention to how well my players are doing. Unfortunately there’s no evidence yet that this strategy is working.) I can tell you this much: his Who-hearing ability is uncanny.

Then again, loading my roster with Sabres I love is probably a bad idea, right? It just means I’m going to end up hating them double by the end of the season. Oh, well.

I’d have to talk her into waiving him

I was going to ask about this, actually. What’s the league’s policy on players who are traded between conferences during the season? Would Kate have to drop him anyway? Commish?
on November 17, 2008 at 1:45 pm Caitlin

Caitlin, I’m sure they’re hoping he’ll pass through and go to the minors, but I doubt he would.

Yeah, if they’re hoping that, then…they’re dumb. I mean, for God’s sakes, I think Tampa Bay is ALWAYS in good need of a forward or two, right?! *facedesk*

That whole waiver thing is crap, if you ask me.

There’s a lot of things that I can think of right now that are crap. :(

andrew, it’s okay, I guess. I don’t know. I’ll throw a party when both GMs are fired. Sigh.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:45 pm Myra

Patty, one of the Kid’s first responses after hearing Boucher had been traded was, “At least, now Patty can have him on her fantasy team.”

Where did you hear about the Crombeen waiver? I’ve seen a brief mention on Heika comments referring to a brief mention on TSN.

Hull really does hate defense, doesn’t he. Crombeen was one of our stronger defensive forwards, IMO.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:50 pm Meg

I was going to ask about this, actually. What’s the league’s policy on players who are traded between conferences during the season?

We get to keep them.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:53 pm andrew

What’s the league’s policy on players who are traded between conferences during the season? Would Kate have to drop him anyway?

Nah, she’d be free to keep him. If a player is traded out of his conference, the original team owner can keep him. But, if he’s up for grabs and someone want to pluck him off the FA list, the regular cross conference rules apply.

andrew, it’s okay, I guess. I don’t know. I’ll throw a party when both GMs are fired. Sigh.

I’ll be honest Caitlin. It’s no fun watching the Stars flail about, because they’re supposed to keep the Sharks honest in the division race.

But! I’ll tell you what is fun…watching Brett Hull epically and totally fail. It’s just too bad it has to be your team that he’s failing. Why couldn’t the Wings have hired him as their ambassador of fun?
on November 17, 2008 at 1:55 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I’m off to a meeting, Gambler, but later this afternoon I’ll see what you have and let you know.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:56 pm Schnookie

Hey, wow! It’s not all bad in the world today! I just decided I needed some effervescence for my tummy ache, and when I got into the break room to take a chance with our hit-or-miss snack machine, there was a guy fixing the machine. It turns out some dingbat I work with had put two coffee stirrers in the little coin slot. At any rate, the guy gave me a free soda! WOO HOO!

Oh, and andrew, you’ll probably understand the trauma and horror that was our weekend at IPB Manor — we spent three long, nearly fruitless nights KILLING OURSELVES to win all the grand prix 150 levels in MarioKart. We still have three left. It was brutal. My self esteem is totally shot now.
on November 17, 2008 at 1:56 pm Caitlin

I’ll tell you what is fun…watching Brett Hull epically and totally fail.

You know what’s depressing? I used to unabashedly love Hull. Now, I know my blinding rage is probably 1/1000th of what Sabres fans feel, but man. He is dead to me. FOREVER.

I know that’s probably knee-jerk, but FOREVER.

Why couldn’t the Wings have hired him as their ambassador of fun?

Because clearly, the Wings didn’t need an ambassador of fun; apparently, we did. He was much more humorous when he was the ambassador of fun, though. Especially because being the ambassador of fun doesn’t involve any responsibility.

Ugh, now I’ve semi-raged myself into a migraine (don’t worry, it’s not just hockey. It’s other things too. Now I don’t feel so sad about raging myself into a migraine.)
on November 17, 2008 at 1:59 pm Schnookie

But! I’ll tell you what is fun…watching Brett Hull epically and totally fail. It’s just too bad it has to be your team that he’s failing. Why couldn’t the Wings have hired him as their ambassador of fun?

Seriously. I’m also delighted that Hull has proven himself to be a disaster as a GM, but really, couldn’t it have been a more loathesome team? Say… the Rangers?

I know that’s probably knee-jerk, but FOREVER.

See, I always thought the liking him was the knee-jerk reaction, and eventually you’d come to realize that you were totally wrong about him and you actually hated him, just like everyone else. Declaring him dead to you FOREVER just seems like the correct, rational reaction to him. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 2:01 pm Gambler

I’m off to a meeting, Gambler, but later this afternoon I’ll see what you have and let you know.

Sounds good, Patty. I’m off to class now, but I should be around later.

See you, everybody! (Oh, and thanks for the infos about cross-conference trading, Meg and andrew.)
on November 17, 2008 at 2:02 pm andrew

we spent three long, nearly fruitless nights KILLING OURSELVES to win all the grand prix 150 levels in MarioKart. We still have three left. It was brutal. My self esteem is totally shot now.

Holy crap. I hope you guys were working in rotating shifts! Did you already win out on 50 and 100cc? I was playing a lot of Katamari this weekend. Mindless rolling. It’s very cathartic.

I know that’s probably knee-jerk, but FOREVER.

HA! That’s pretty funny Caitlin.

Ugh, now I’ve semi-raged myself into a migraine

Eep! Sorry! I hope you feel better!
on November 17, 2008 at 2:03 pm Gambler

Declaring him dead to you FOREVER just seems like the correct, rational reaction to him. :P

I agree. And you know what else? While he was making all of these ridiculous trades and moves? I bet his skate was in the crease.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:06 pm andrew

See you, everybody! (Oh, and thanks for the infos about cross-conference trading, Meg and andrew.)

Anytime, Gambler! See ya!
on November 17, 2008 at 2:09 pm Caitlin

Declaring him dead to you FOREVER just seems like the correct, rational reaction to him. :P

Is that why my brain is so hurty? This is what reason feels like?! OOWWWW.

And you know what else? While he was making all of these ridiculous trades and moves? I bet his skate was in the crease.

SON OF A BITCH. God. GOOOODDDD. I want to kick him in the shins! Then he can never stand in the crease ever again. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 2:11 pm Schnookie

See ya, Gambler! Have fun in class!

Did you already win out on 50 and 100cc?

Yes, which is why we were so surprised at how hard the 150 was! I thought I was GOOD at that game! :P

Mindlessly rolling Katamaris sounds heavenly. That’s totally what I needed to get past my MarioKart rage. Basically the game waited until I’d completely bottomed out and then it rolled over for me. Late last night we managed to win two of the trophies we’d been working hardest on all weekend. Stupid Wii, knowing EXACTLY how hard it can push me.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:12 pm Schnookie

Is that why my brain is so hurty? This is what reason feels like?! OOWWWW.

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
on November 17, 2008 at 2:14 pm Chaz

I was going to try to wrestle Bouche from the Fancy Bits, but Kate can’t take anybody I have since they’re all EC guys. I’d have to talk her into waiving him, then talk everybody else into not picking him up off waivers.

*dramatic pause*

Don’t worry about me Patty, I can “take one for the team.”
on November 17, 2008 at 2:15 pm Myra

Since I was blissfully ignorant of hockey when Hully was a player, I have never had any problems hating him. He is just the kind of idiotic dude I can’t stand to be around. And now he is proving my impeccable ability to size people up was not wrong.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:19 pm Schnookie

And now he is proving my impeccable ability to size people up was not wrong.

:^::::::::::::::::::::: (There’s sadness and sympathy in that laughter, too, of course. :P)
on November 17, 2008 at 2:21 pm andrew

Yes, which is why we were so surprised at how hard the 150 was! I thought I was GOOD at that game! :P

Oh, I know the story! It’s always fun to master a game on ‘easy’ and think you’re on top of the world. Then when you try to give it a go on ‘hard’ it bitch slaps you into next week. Story of my life man.

Late last night we managed to win two of the trophies we’d been working hardest on all weekend.

Well congrats! Woo Hoo! I found the hardest to be the ‘classic course’ grand prix. I think it’s the Special Cup. Freaking super difficult!

Heh, just wait until you start racing the mirrored course. Makes the 150cc seem easy. Sadly enough.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:24 pm andrew

Since I was blissfully ignorant of hockey when Hully was a player…

Ugh, I can feel the bile rising.

Stupid Brett Hull. Myra, if this were 1999 there is no way we could be friends. I’m sorry. As you can tell, it’s been almost 10 years and I (along with 99.9% of Sabres fans, to be sure) still harbor a healthy dislike for The Ambassador.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:28 pm Schnookie

Then when you try to give it a go on ‘hard’ it bitch slaps you into next week. Story of my life man.

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: It’s not easy, these lives we lead. :P

And we don’t have a trophy yet in the classic courses. Not even bronze. Last night we finally managed to take down the one with Wario’s Gold Mine and the one with Rainbow Road. It was NOT pretty.

Myra, I didn’t really have a horse in the ’99 Cup race, and I still hated Hull. For reasons that had nothing at all to do with the foot-in-the-crease thing. He has a very wide-ranging douchiness. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 2:28 pm Amy

As you can tell, it’s been almost 10 years and I (along with 99.9% of Sabres fans, to be sure) still harbor a healthy dislike for The Ambassador.

That’s for sure. Though the dislike of the Stars themselves has evaporated. Did you know that the Stars sent the nets from that ’99 Cup Final to a local rink up here? They were removed of any Stars mentions, but the nets are currently in use by youth leagues.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:38 pm andrew

Last night we finally managed to take down the one with Wario’s Gold Mine and the one with Rainbow Road. It was NOT pretty.

Rainbow Road is no joke dude. That course is crazy!

Though the dislike of the Stars themselves has evaporated.

Luckily I get to keep that, as they play the Sharks 8 times a year. (well, 6 now, but whatever.)
on November 17, 2008 at 2:43 pm alix

Eee! The Wheaty Bitches are so bitchy they’re in the playoff race! I feel like a Blues or Blue Jackets fan! This has never happened before!

Good little bitches.

Oh Stars fans, I’m SO, SO sorry! You should send Hullie a steak sandwich, but have it actually be dog poo.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:46 pm Caitlin

andrew, I’m sorry, man, you just can’t win, can you?

You should send Hullie a steak sandwich, but have it actually be dog poo.

:^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

alix, I…I don’t think he’d notice, to tell you the truth. :/
on November 17, 2008 at 2:49 pm Myra

I want to know what Hull has done with Les Jackson. Isn’t he supposed to be the smart. I have visions of Jackson tied up in a closet with Hull laughing evilly.
on November 17, 2008 at 2:51 pm alix

Hey, anybody somewhat Doctorly around here?

I’ve had numb arms off and on for three days now. Anybody know what it could be? I should probably go to a clinic, eh?
on November 17, 2008 at 2:53 pm Schnookie

Maybe Jackson is the smart one, and he’s cleverly making Hull take the fall for all his crappy GM moves?
on November 17, 2008 at 2:58 pm Schnookie

Numb arms??? Yeah, I might go see a medical professional about that, alix.
on November 17, 2008 at 3:01 pm Caitlin

Yeah, go see a doc, alix! I don’t know what it could be, but I’d definitely go see a doc.

Maybe Jackson is the smart one, and he’s cleverly making Hull take the fall for all his crappy GM moves?

God only knows. Honestly, I have no idea what the hell is going on here these days. I just show up and point fingers. :p
on November 17, 2008 at 3:01 pm alix

Yeah, I’m going right now, Schnookie. Thanks!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:02 pm Schnookie

I just show up and point fingers. :p

That’s a fan’s job! :D

And good luck at the doctor’s, alix!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:03 pm alix

Thanks, Caitlin!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:04 pm redank

You should send Hullie a steak sandwich, but have it actually be dog poo.

[Hull, thinking to himself]
Those fools!!! Sending me a pulled pork sandwich and trying to convince ME it’s steak!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:04 pm andrew

I’ve had numb arms off and on for three days now. Anybody know what it could be?

Both arms? That’s crazy alix. I have no idea what it could be, but if it’s not going away, I’d say get your ass into the doctors office!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:10 pm Caitlin

That’s a fan’s job! :D

Hmm. I wonder if it’s also possible to modify “If you know the Rangers suck” to “If you know that Hullie sucks”. I mean, after all, that falls under a fan’s job description too, right? :p
on November 17, 2008 at 3:11 pm Schnookie

Those fools!!! Sending me a pulled pork sandwich and trying to convince ME it’s steak!

:^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
on November 17, 2008 at 3:12 pm andrew

Honestly, I have no idea what the hell is going on here these days. I just show up and point fingers. :p

Haha…that’s the fan’s role in the game isn’t it? I’ll tell you my theory. Hull and Jackson took over last year, didn’t really do much and the team kicked ass. So, logically they get all excited and figure, “Hey, if we fill some key parts, we’ll have a shot at the Cup!” So, they go a little crazy, as a rookie GM is wont to do. They bring in character guys like Avery *gag*, and figure all is well!

Now the chickens have come home to roost, y’all. Looks like a chemistry experiment gone wrong. Poor fans.

Yeah, I’m going right now, Schnookie. Thanks!

Go to it alix! Get fixed up. I might go to the doctor this week, I took a nasty fall on Saturday night and my elbow took the brunt of it. Not cool!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:15 pm Schnookie

Oh man, you fell on your elbow, andrew? That’s awful!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:23 pm andrew

Oh man, you fell on your elbow, andrew? That’s awful!

Sounds rediculous I know! I was crouching down to give myneice a hug and wasn’t expecting a running tackle. She had her arms around my neck and pulled us both forward. So, rather than fall on her and smush her, I had to cradle her which caused me to land squarely on my elbow. Hurts like a bee sting!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:24 pm Schnookie

Dude, I would have just smushed the kid. You’re a much better uncle than I would ever be. (Or aunt. You know what I mean!)
on November 17, 2008 at 3:30 pm andrew

Dude, I would have just smushed the kid.

Ha! I know right? Unfortunately, with her weighing about 25 lbs and me wieghing in around 195, I think I would have flattened the poor thing!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:34 pm Gambler

Wow, all the Irregulars are really in rough shape, aren’t we? I’ve had what feels like two pickup trucks parked in the back of my throat where my tonsils should be for about two weeks now. I hope the Ookies aren’t going to have to put any of us on IR, because I hear their commenter farm team is pretty slim pickins.
on November 17, 2008 at 3:36 pm Schnookie

Meh, kids are a lot more resilient than you think. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 3:39 pm Schnookie

Oof, Gambler, I’m so sorry about your tonsils! If it’s any consolation, I’ve had some issues with my digestive bits for the last two days. My stomach is killing me today! (But it’s not going to stop me from eating a beer and cheese dinner. :P)

I hope the Ookies aren’t going to have to put any of us on IR, because I hear their commenter farm team is pretty slim pickins.

Yeah, we’ve drafted terribly and traded all our good prospects for rental commentors. We’re the Neil Smith of bloggers.
on November 17, 2008 at 3:44 pm alix

Ok, so my Uni Health Center only had nurses available. So, my temperature and blood pressure look great. But I can’t see a doctor until 9:30 tomorrow morning. I hope I don’t die overnight…

And sorry about your elbow, Andrew!

And your tonsils, Gambler! I don’t have tonsils anymore.
on November 17, 2008 at 3:45 pm Gambler

We’re the Neil Smith of bloggers.

Well, if you’re looking to become the Lou of bloggers, I have some less-talented siblings you might be interested in…

And thanks for the tonsil sympathy. My real-life friends are totally sick of me complaining about it by now, and I figure, that’s what the internet is for, right? And that sucks about your digestive bits, but good for you for not letting it ruin your beer and cheese!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:45 pm andrew

Meh, kids are a lot more resilient than you think. :P

Haha! Yeah I know. Like little rubber balls. Maybe if it had been on carpet I would have let her cushion my fall.

Yeah, we’ve drafted terribly and traded all our good prospects for rental commentors. We’re the Neil Smith of bloggers.

You’re like Neil Smith and Pookie’s like Mike Milbury. It’s tough being an effective blogging GM!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:48 pm Schnookie

You’re like Neil Smith and Pookie’s like Mike Milbury.

Damn! We’re a wreck! At least I can console myself with knowing I’m a better analyst in the studio. :P

alix, I guess if the nurses let you go back home, you’re probably not in much danger of dying overnight. Which is a good thing. I’m relieved to hear it. :D

Gambler, I’m not so sure about these younger, less-talented siblings. Speaking as one myself, they make me nervous. Nope, I’m definitely not a Lou. (And you’re more than welcome to complain about your ailments here! I’m such a crotchety old lady that I’m like, “Why wouldn’t people want to talk about their physical ailments?” Have a Werther’s while you’re here.)
on November 17, 2008 at 3:48 pm redank

if you’re looking to become the Lou of bloggers, I have some less-talented siblings

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Blogging about hockey sounds rougher than actually playing hockey!!!
on November 17, 2008 at 3:50 pm Amy

so my Uni Health Center only had nurses available. So, my temperature and blood pressure look great. But I can’t see a doctor until 9:30 tomorrow morning. I hope I don’t die overnight…

Do Canadian Uni Health Centers ask you if you’re pregnant even if you’re going in for something as minor as a skinned knee? That actually happened to me when I was in college.
on November 17, 2008 at 3:50 pm Mags

Stars fans, I’m so sorry Hulljack is following my strategy. Really, truly, honestly sorry. Alix, please don’t be dying. Andrew, sorry about your elbow. Gambler, I hope your tonsils get better. Schnookie, good luck with the digestive issues.

Me, I think I can safely say that if you kicked me in the shins right now I’d thank you, because I’d be grateful to be feeling something below the waist. Sprint training in goalie gear is an unholy pain in the ass.
on November 17, 2008 at 3:51 pm Caitlin

But it’s not going to stop me from eating a beer and cheese dinner.

:sobs over lack of beer and cheese:
on November 17, 2008 at 3:56 pm Mags

:sobs over lack of beer and cheese:

*HUGS* I will send you some vacuum-packed awesome Dutch cheese and it will all be better! (I can tell you this because my Dutch gran once sent us some when we lived in Hong Kong, and it arrived when I was having a super shitty day and suddenly, all was right in the world. And if it isn’t, perhaps you can throw it at Hully and he’ll forget to take the plastic off and well, THAT little bit of stomach contents might be interesting to explain to the people at the ER. And yes, I have digressed this far.)
on November 17, 2008 at 3:58 pm Gambler

I don’t have tonsils anymore.

Lucky! Seriously, at this point I’m almost ready to rip mine out myself, since they refuse to get better. What are they good for anyway, besides causing pain and making it difficult to swallow?

I’m sure you can hang in there until tomorrow morning, alix! I’m impressed, though, I don’t think my school’s health services even employs doctors. So whenever I go see them I’m always convinced that I’m dying of some obscure disease that the nurses can’t diagnose.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:02 pm redank

Sprint training in goalie gear is an unholy pain in the ass.

Man…it’s bad enough in regular gear. Do they train you to take your first 5 strides on your toes in goalie gear?
on November 17, 2008 at 4:05 pm Mags

What are they good for anyway

They’re a part of your immune system. You can live without them, but the risk of upper respiratory disease is higher.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:16 pm Mags

Do they train you to take your first 5 strides on your toes in goalie gear?

You mean with the crossover start? There’s so much gear in the way I can’t even imagine. Plus the blades are so different I can imagine face planting pretty spectacularly if I tried. (Which is code for “guess what I’m going to try tomorrow?”)
on November 17, 2008 at 4:21 pm redank

Plus the blades are so different

That’s why I was wondering. It’s not so much the crossover start, but taking the first 3-5 strides by merely digging the toes of your blades into the ice. I’m still working on it because of the faceplant factor. It’s kinda of like when a figure skater does toe work, except we don’t have the teeth in the toes like figure skates.

And a crossover start with goal pads is well-nigh impossible. Good luck with it tomorrow! ;p
on November 17, 2008 at 4:28 pm Mags

taking the first 3-5 strides by merely digging the toes of your blades into the ice.

Okay that, yeah, no. They don’t tell us that. The skaters, yes, the goalies no. But I’m definitely going to try it during practice tomorrow, to see what happens. And I’ll report back with my findings (and potentially a broken nose or something).

I can do crossovers with pads but a crossover start is probably going to be an issue. But hey, can’t succeed if you don’t try eh?
on November 17, 2008 at 4:29 pm Grrrreg

They’re a part of your immune system. You can live without them, but the risk of upper respiratory disease is higher.

Tonsils are overrated. I’ve been doing fine without them for the last 15 years. :)
on November 17, 2008 at 4:30 pm Mags

Tonsils are overrated. I’ve been doing fine without them for the last 15 years. :)

Ooooh, yours didn’t grow back? They usually do :) But like I said, you can live a perfectly disease-free life without them.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:35 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I had my tonsils out when I was two. It was all the rage back then. She has a sore throat? Let’s take out her tonsils, see if that helps.

So, no offense, but I find them kind of creepy. :P
on November 17, 2008 at 4:35 pm Grrrreg

What? Tonsils can grow back???

*runs to the bathroom to check*
on November 17, 2008 at 4:38 pm Mags

What? Tonsils can grow back???

You did not know this? Yes, they can and usually do. Actually, it depends on which tonsils they remove, but that is dentist!speak I won’t bore you with. Basically, yes, they can.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:39 pm Gambler

Ooooh, yours didn’t grow back? They usually do :)

Wait, wha-huh? Tonsils can grow back? Gross! And I thought I couldn’t possibly find them anymore vile than I already did.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:41 pm alix

Mine grew back :) I had them out when I was 4, and then again when I was 10.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:44 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I never heard of such a thing!

I think they also got my wisdom teeth at the time, because I never had those, either.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:45 pm andrew

I had my tonsils out when I was two. It was all the rage back then. She has a sore throat? Let’s take out her tonsils, see if that helps.

That’s awesome. I wish my parents had okay’d mine for removal way back when. I had a freakin’ ton of infections and throat problems when I was a kid. Stupid tonsils.

Did I tell you guys? We’ve got tickets for next Wednesday’s game! I know on the surface that doesn’t sound terribly exciting, but it is! It’s Soupys first game back in SJ. It is going to be hilarious. He’s going to get booed so effing hard.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:48 pm andrew

I think they also got my wisdom teeth at the time, because I never had those, either.

Probably not, if you were only two. I don’t think wisdom teeth even begin forming until after you’ve lost all your baby teeth. Mags? Judges ruling?
on November 17, 2008 at 4:48 pm Patty (in Dallas)

So. Gambler. Who’s off limits? I’ll have to say that I don’t really need anybody to hear whos so I’ll pass on Horton.

Can I have Vinny or Marty?
on November 17, 2008 at 4:49 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I don’t think wisdom teeth even begin forming until after you’ve lost all your baby teeth.

I’m mostly kidding, although I wouldn’t be surprised. :D
on November 17, 2008 at 4:52 pm andrew

I’m mostly kidding, although I wouldn’t be surprised. :D

Gotcha!

I had mine removed at 13, while they were still forming in the jaw. Very rough experience. I don’t recommend it.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:53 pm Mags

I think they also got my wisdom teeth at the time, because I never had those, either.

Heeee! Probably not. Your wisdom teeth usually start to form between ages 17 – 25, if at all. But it’s an interesting concept! Maybe I got one of yours, because I have (or had, I had them all out last year) 5 instead of the usual 4.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:55 pm Mags

I had mine removed at 13, while they were still forming in the jaw. Very rough experience. I don’t recommend it.

I saw that surgery a few times, and no, I wouldn’t recommend it. Just the sound of it, let alone the sight. Yuck.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:55 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Both my sisters had some bad wisdom teeth experiences. When my orthodontist was about to take my braces off he made me get x-rays to make sure it wouldn’t all be undone by them. He didn’t seem to think it was that freaky not to have any. I was lucky there.
on November 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Yikes, andrew!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:01 pm Grrrreg

Wow, this discussion is really turning nasty… :)
on November 17, 2008 at 5:04 pm andrew

Patty, the reason I had mine removed so early was also do to having/getting braces. The doc wanted to ensure they wouldn’t interfere once the braces were in place. It was lame.

I saw that surgery a few times, and no, I wouldn’t recommend it. Just the sound of it, let alone the sight. Yuck.

Yuck indeed! And I was already wary of dentists before that surgery. Let’s just say it didn’t help improve my prejudices against them.
on November 17, 2008 at 5:05 pm Mags

He didn’t seem to think it was that freaky not to have any.

Oh it totally isn’t. Lots of people don’t have them, or start getting them but they don’t erupt and eventually dissolve. Unless you’re missing other molars, you don’t really need them. From an evolutionary standpoint, they exist solely because people had usually lost some of their teeth by the age of 20-25 (random fact: average lifespan of your entire dentition, even if you never clean them, is 35-45 years depending on your sugar intake. and could do with the extra. These days that doesn’t happen as much.

And now I’ll shut up about the dentist stuff.
on November 17, 2008 at 5:08 pm Patty (in Dallas)

From an evolutionary standpoint, they exist solely because people had usually lost some of their teeth by the age of 20-25

That’s actually kind of fascinating!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:08 pm Mags

Wow, this discussion is really turning nasty… :)

Why do you think I dropped dentistry and switched to economics :P (actually, it was less because of the icky and mostly because of the soul-killing elitist bitching and never-ending cynicism with regards to patients, but that’s beside the point)
on November 17, 2008 at 5:15 pm Mags

And on that cheerful note, I’m going to pass out for 7 hours. Have a good day, enjoy the hockey on tonight (Go Nucks! Go Sharks!) and I’ll “see” y’all tomorrow!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:20 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Bye, Mags!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:26 pm Grrrreg

I’m going to pass out for 7 hours.

Well, I think, I’m gonna do just the same. Ciao!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:27 pm Gambler

Can I have Vinny or Marty?

Vinny’s not going anywhere. He’s attractive. Marty was also originally on my no-touch list, but now that I’m thinking about it, I’m not really that attached to him. In fact, I don’t know why, but he’s always kind of annoyed me. And I do love me some Pommerdoodle, even if turning him into a Hobo is probably the kiss of death for him.

So, sure, Pommer for St. Louis? (I’m crazy, aren’t I?)
on November 17, 2008 at 5:27 pm Grrrreg

I’m going to pass out for 7 hours.

Well, I think I’m gonna do just the same. Ciao!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:27 pm Grrrreg

Damn, sorry about the double post…
on November 17, 2008 at 5:27 pm Gambler

Night, Mags and Grrrreg!

Ah, I remember those days on Europe time…
on November 17, 2008 at 5:31 pm Schnookie

Well, g’night all you crazy Europeans! Sorry to have missed you!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:36 pm Patty (in Dallas)

You’re very sly, Gambler. Pommers is scoring more than Marty so far…

If I’d ever heard of the Dennis Wideman person, I’d take him, but I figure it’s just beginner’s luck that he’s scoring so much.
on November 17, 2008 at 5:40 pm Schnookie

If I’d ever heard of the Dennis Wideman person, I’d take him, but I figure it’s just beginner’s luck that he’s scoring so much.

:^::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
on November 17, 2008 at 5:40 pm Patty (in Dallas)

I’ll trade you, Gambler!

Go ahead and request it, or I can when I get home in a couple of hours.
on November 17, 2008 at 5:41 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Wait. Are you saying I should take Wideman, Schnookie? I’m not kidding, I know nothing about him. I mean, I’ve heard his name, but just this season, right? He’s new, right?
on November 17, 2008 at 5:46 pm Gambler

I don’t really know anything about Dennis Wideman either, and he’s supposedly in my division! I’m sure it’s complete coincidence he’s scoring so much. Those Bruins are known for their witchcraft, you know. But since there are no un-sucky defensemen available, I really need to hang on to those I have.

I’m requesting the trade right now…
on November 17, 2008 at 5:53 pm andrew

Those Bruins are known for their witchcraft, you know.

Dude, the Bruins are good this year. I still haven’t figured out how to deal with this.

It…just…Bruins.
on November 17, 2008 at 5:53 pm Patty (in Dallas)

How long do I have? I might have to wait until I’m not at work, but I’ll see what the email says I have to do.
on November 17, 2008 at 5:57 pm Patty (in Dallas)

EEEE! I just accepted it! I’ve never made a trade before! So exciting!
on November 17, 2008 at 5:59 pm Schnookie

Dude, I wouldn’t know Wideman if he kicked me in the teeth. In fact, I had no idea who he was. A Bruin, eh? That would explain it.
on November 17, 2008 at 6:04 pm Gambler

Good deal, Patty. Trading is fun, isn’t it?!

Well, between this trade and getting Biron from Chaz earlier today, my Hobos have gotten considerably cuter, if nothing else.
on November 17, 2008 at 6:04 pm Patty (in Dallas)

He’s a d-man and had 5 goals in the last month. (Not sure about the whole season.) I’m POSITIVE it’s an anomoly. You know, pretty sure.
on November 17, 2008 at 6:05 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Maybe being on a line with Sid will help Marty’s craft.

Get it?
on November 17, 2008 at 6:06 pm Patty (in Dallas)

It IS fun, Gambler! How about Manny Fernandez for Crunchy?
on November 17, 2008 at 6:11 pm andrew

He’s a d-man and had 5 goals in the last month. (Not sure about the whole season.) I’m POSITIVE it’s an anomoly. You know, pretty sure.

With Ference out for 6-9 weeks, Wideman’s numbers will actually most likely improve. He’s gonna get more ice time.
on November 17, 2008 at 6:20 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Wideman’s numbers will actually most likely improve

DAMMIT!
on November 17, 2008 at 6:22 pm Pookie

Going back to our commenter minor leagues, I knew we shouldn’t have drafted the same 8 people commenting over and over again! :D

This whole “tonsils grow back thing” is blowing my mind.

I have to say, I’m totally rejuvenated by making a Superleague super trade. We should have quarterly white elephant sales!
on November 17, 2008 at 6:26 pm andrew

DAMMIT!

I mean…no!…He’s totally flukey, Patty! No way can he keep up this pace!

(sorry!)
on November 17, 2008 at 6:31 pm Patty (in Dallas)

andrew, :^:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
on November 17, 2008 at 6:35 pm Schnookie

This whole “tonsils grow back thing” is blowing my mind.

Dude, seriously. I don’t think I’m going to be able to sleep tonight. That gives me the heebie-jeebies so badly.
on November 17, 2008 at 6:39 pm Gambler

It IS fun, Gambler! How about Manny Fernandez for Crunchy?

Heh. Nice try, Patty. One swindle per customer!

Wideman’s numbers will actually most likely improve

Really? Sweet!

Going back to our commenter minor leagues, I knew we shouldn’t have drafted the same 8 people commenting over and over again! :D

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on November 17, 2008 at 6:43 pm Patty (in Dallas)

Heh. Nice try, Patty. One swindle per customer!

Hey! I don’t mind if you swindle me again!
on November 17, 2008 at 6:48 pm andrew

Really? Sweet!

We’ll see! I’ve made stupider predictions that have come true.

I don’t think I’m going to be able to sleep tonight. That gives me the heebie-jeebies so badly.

It is a little wacky. I mean, what the hell? Are tonsils made of stem cells or something?